Good Natured Advice Thread (improving a business wardrobe)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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    Noodles is Claghorn's petname for member Rudals, who was formerly deficient in the necktie department

    This fine looking white oval face chap

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  2. AJL

    AJL Senior member

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    How about this little number from Shibumi (admittedly late to the game)?

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    Would set off a navy suit nicely I would think.
     


  3. Holdfast

    Holdfast Senior member

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    Glad to hear you're doing good business from it, Ed!

    Noodles - I agree with those now suggesting that you stop buying for a while, and integrate what you have into your wardrobe. You have more than enough for now; I don't like all of them, but they're generally solid conservative choices that will work well with your navy suits. Figure out how to combine them best with the shirts in your wardrobe next. Then you'll be better able to figure out what gaps you have, and buy accordingly. You'll probably also develop a better sense of what you like and what you don't, which will mean you'll be better able to choose between our suggestions to select ones that chime best with your developing preferences.

    And one day, very far distant, you'll knowingly buy a kitsch floral tie, and be delighted about it. And that's when you've really made it! [​IMG] [​IMG]

    BTW, re: different fabrics suiting different seasons: it's just about what looks right within our cultural expectations. Wearing wool ties in winter works because other things in your outfit might be a heavy wool (e.g. tweed or flannel, so the textures meld well) and it looks fluffy (visual associations of warmth). Wearing linen, shantung, or seersucker ties in summer works because other things in your outfit will be lightweight (e.g. linen, or cotton) and because we associate open-weave materials with coolness. Nothing more complicated than that. It is possible to mix-and-match (I think gdl had an "unseasonable items" thread a few years back), but it's a pretty tricky skill.

    Finally, and I think this is important not to forget, choose materials than sync up in overall vibe with the suit (and shirt) you're wearing. So if you're wearing a normal worsted business suit, I would actually suggest that you stick to normal silk ties only. Many on SF will say you can wear a wool tie just fine in such a look... and you can. But it's not entirely straightforward and not as easy as simply subbing a wool tie of the same colour where you'd previously have worn a silk. The vibe is very different IMO.
     
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  4. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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    Too similar to the brown neat noodles just ordered
     


  5. Rudals

    Rudals Senior member

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    Ugh...I closed my wallet and now you come at me with this beauty?!
    Thanks, though. I will add it to my wish list.
     


  6. TM79

    TM79 Senior member

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    Great job revamping your tie wardrobe.

    Some good recommendations were made here. Next step is adding one or two fun ones.
     


  7. Rudals

    Rudals Senior member

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    @Holdfast
    My dream, one day, is to don on a beautiful floral tie and look freaking awesome like you, sir. LOL. I really do want to try at least one floral once I have my "BASE" down.

    But like you said, I will not be buy anymore ties. (Don't know how long this resolution will last). I will try different things but I guess I'll just wear a solid shirt and add the tie.
    Also, I look at one of my pix the other day and wondered, "Something is really missing." And I wondered whether or not adding cufflings will "bling up" my look. Your thoughts? The problem that I have with my current look is sometimes it can be soooooooo plain looking.

    Thanks for the help and the feedback. Let's see how these new ties work out.
     


  8. Rudals

    Rudals Senior member

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    F.L.O.R.A.L.
     


  9. edmorel

    edmorel Quality Seller!! Dubiously Honored

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    hmm, you guys now have pet names for each other...

    I just realized I don't recognize half the people in this thread, I'll ask institches for everyone's dossier and read through them in my spare time.

    You guys are recommending ties to him but has anyone mentioned anything about buttoning that top button?
     


  10. Rudals

    Rudals Senior member

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    Sir,
    I just gained about 10 lbs from my last trip to my homeland and have been trying to shave them off. Until then, I cannot button up. [​IMG]
    5 more lbs to go.
     


  11. jrd617

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    In stitches is like the NSA of Styleforum. He knows all. :D
     


  12. Holdfast

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    Many disagree with the "awesome" part of your description, unless it's of the "shock & awe" variety.... Which is why I told you not to do what I do; I wear a lot of stuff that has rightly got a lot of stick on SF over the years because a lot of it is actually quite objectional, objectively-speaking. I just happen to like some of the effects created and think it's fun(ny) and don't mind having a lot of misses, relatively-speaking, as a result. Your needs/aims are different. Besides, you told us that you work in a very conservative office!

    You don't need cufflinks to add dynamic interest to your looks. You now have enough shirts & ties to create that dynamism (I agree that it would lift your fits) through their combinations. If you want to wear cufflinks, though, that's fine, especially since you don't seem to ever wear a jumper over your shirt so there's no problem with it being annoying to layer over french cuffs.
     


  13. TweedyProf

    TweedyProf Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Ed, what's coming up for Panta in terms of ties for the next season? I'm rocking a Panta I picked up for NYI (a denim/linen, I know it's winter, but it's a substantial fabric and really, works for transition from late summer to fall...but I felt like the texture today).
     


  14. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    After 38 pages, I think I can say: MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

    Now we need another wayward soul.

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    Agreed with everyone else who said Radials should now concentrate on integrating them into his fits. His choices are all good ones and shouldn't be too hard to work with.
     


  15. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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