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Good Natured Advice Thread (improving a business wardrobe)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. ericgereghty

    ericgereghty Senior member

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    In fairness though, the black tie rules ought to still exist, and preferably be strictly adhered to, outside of the LA (unfortunately, my people lol) riff raff that we normally see walking the red carpet.

    Save for the wing collar "rule," which I've never liked...though that is likely attributable to my short and stocky neck ha.
     
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  2. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Senior member

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    Ok, but again, aside from whatever value judgment you might put on black tie "rules," they still don't exist. Whether you think they should exist is entirely independent of that. The simple fact is that they never existed. To suggest that they should still exist is to suggest that they did at one point. I'd suggest that this couldn't possibly be true because black tie is itself a hybrid of formalities that was mashed together at a point in history in an attempt to be more casual. So it started as a refutation of rules, evolved over time as a refutation of rules, and so remains today.
     
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  3. ericgereghty

    ericgereghty Senior member

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    I agree fully, though black/white Tie should still have rules...and yes, that's just me being a contrarian asshole lol
     
  4. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Senior member

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    Contrarian, sure. Asshole, nah. You are still cool in my book. Besides, I should think the contrarian position would be against rules. [​IMG]
     
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  5. ericgereghty

    ericgereghty Senior member

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    Unrelated, but Ramon Cuberta is now (or soon to be, in any event) offering a MTM service. If I recall, his full bespoke is pretty darn reasonable, and his limited RTW is right around Carmina prices. I for one am very excited to see what the MTM program features. His swan neck oxfords (bespoke model, I believe) are on my wishlist for sure.

    Note: not a promotion or anything. Just spreading news on what I consider an awesome maker [​IMG]

    Correction: if I'm reading the site correctly, VAT is inclusive, so, assuming you're out of that web, final tally for RTW would come in notably lower than Carmina.
     
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  6. WillingToLearn

    WillingToLearn Senior member

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    Thought for the snow day to spark discussion/debate/mockery - I have come to wear my charcoal flannels more, although not as much as mid grey. I am actually coming to think light grey may be inferior to mid grey. Point being, charcoal flannels get panned here regularly, maybe too much so. photos to fuel discussion:

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  7. Cleav

    Cleav Senior member Moderator

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    WtL, wear what works for you and stuff the rest. Btw your stuff works perfectly :nodding:
     
  8. sprout2

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    So literally what I was saying all along in the Unfunded liabilities thread. [​IMG]
     
  9. ericgereghty

    ericgereghty Senior member

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    Only speaking for myself, but I wasn't disagreeing with you. They certainly have a place as a staple in the wardrobe, and I like them...just not as cream as light grey or cream [​IMG]
     
  10. WillingToLearn

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    For flannel trousers I have oatmeal, fawn brown, light,mid and charcoal grey, as well as a reddish brown and navy. I find mid grey and fawn brown to be the ones i reach for most. For next winter I will add a dark tan and maybe a greenish grey/brown "donkey".
     
  11. New Shoes1

    New Shoes1 Senior member

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    Wearing charcoal flannels today as well:

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    I also agree that I wear mid grey and fawn the most, followed by tan and charcoal with blue tweed lagging behind.
     
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  12. bry2000

    bry2000 Senior member

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    I am a fan of charcoal flannels and find them to be the second most useful flannel color after mid grey.
     
  13. sprout2

    sprout2 Senior member

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    What's with all the boots...
     
  14. WillingToLearn

    WillingToLearn Senior member

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    Very practical in the Northeast, especially with a danite sole. i think the real question is why wouldn't one wear boots in the winter in a place with "real" winters
     
  15. AMProf

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    Or hell, why wouldn't one wear boots anywhere it drops below 50 degrees?
     
  16. New Shoes1

    New Shoes1 Senior member

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    Y'up. I could say it's because of all the snow we are getting yesterday and today, but that would ignore the fact that I'd be wearing them even if it was 40 degrees and sunny today.
     
  17. sprout2

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    Proper gentlemen have themselves pulled to the front door of work by Huskies on a bobsled, thereby avoiding contact with snow.
     
  18. sugarbutch

    sugarbutch Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    See, I wouldn't classify either of those as charcoal. Dark gray, perhaps, but charcoal would be only a few steps away from black. Dark gray is a staple IMO.
     
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  19. Patrick R

    Patrick R Senior member

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    Thank you. I look at those photos and think "charcoal?"
     
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