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Good Natured Advice Thread (improving a business wardrobe)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. ericgereghty

    ericgereghty Senior member

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    My thought is also that this is a look that has the potential to look more prematurely "dated" than a side vented one might,

    At the end of the day though, it's your call. If you like it, or want to give it a go, have at it! [​IMG]
     
  2. llamaone

    llamaone Senior member

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    Ah gotchya, thanks. Misunderstood you, thought you were agreeing with New Shoes. My bad.

    Lol, touché. :cheers:

    I really like your KW jacket, roped shoulders and all. Which canvas option is that? Did you get matching pants?
     
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  3. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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    Regular canvas - might try soft on my next commission (linen), and yeah - just not wearing them today.
     
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  4. New Shoes1

    New Shoes1 Senior member

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    FTFY
     
  5. EFV

    EFV Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Looks a lot like the fabric I had this suit made from:

    [​IMG]
     
  6. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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    Might be, it's an ormezzano linen if that helps
     
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  7. ericgereghty

    ericgereghty Senior member

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    Lol whatever floats your boat hoss. I hope you approach minute annoyances with a slightly more blase attitude IRL (I know me some text talk too!).
    I wouldn't know how to function in LA if everything of this sort rumpled my chonies [​IMG]
     
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  8. Murlsquirl

    Murlsquirl Senior member Moderator

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    From what I understand, there is very little margin for error and if you're the weight fluctuating type, it's probably not a good idea.
     
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  9. Journeyman

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    Personally, I wouldn't.

    Ventless jackets were quite popular in the 1960s or so, particularly in the US - when you watch some classic Hitchcock and other movies with actors such as Cary Grant, you can see that they're wearing ventless jackets, and the jacket fit them well.

    I agree that a well-cut, ventless jacket can sit well. I've got a large backside and so prefer double-vented jackets but for my dinner suit, I went with tradition and got a ventless jacket but due to the way that it is cut, it sits well even when buttoned, which surprised me. However, it still feels a bit more constraining, for want of a better word, than a vented jacket. Also, whilst some people regard putting your hands in your pockets while wear a jacket as a faux pas, I do like to be able to use my trouser pockets while wearing my jacket and having double vents does make it easier to do so.

    However, as @ericgereghty noted, ventless jackets were everywhere in the 1980s and early 1990s, having been popularised by brands such as Armani, and I think that they fell out of favour as a result, particularly because they were often baggy, shapeless and had large, padded shoulders.

    In short, I wouldn't go with a ventless jacket. Even when well-cut, it's still a bit more restrictive and it will look a bit different and potentially dated, for better or worse.
     
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  10. ericgereghty

    ericgereghty Senior member

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  11. sebastian mcfox

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    Ok, I think that settles it. Thanks for the comprehensive advice [​IMG]
     
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  12. sugarbutch

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    The reflexive no seems to me to be more about what is typical and associations with the suits of the '80s/'90s than about usability or how it actually looks. Someone above mentioned that they like side vents for their non-flat ass, but I think you can get a cleaner look with a ventless jacket than with any other style.

    If you frequently put your hands in your pockets when standing, maybe that's a mark against a ventless jacket, but otherwise I don't see the issue. In fact, I was considering ventless the next time I have something made...
     
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  13. sugarbutch

    sugarbutch Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Also: If no other aspect of the jacket's styling is evocative of the '80s/'90s, no one will make the association just because the jacket has no vent(s).
     
  14. sebastian mcfox

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    Hmm, interesting. I'm less concerned about associations with 80/90s styling than I am with comfort and maneuverability.

    I have faith that the jacket will be cut well, my weight stays fairly constant and I don't have a big backside, so perhaps it's something I should try?

    Decisions decisions..
     
  15. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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    Everyone is focusing on the negatives.

    What about the positives? Why choose a ventless jacket? What advantages does it have?
     
  16. sebastian mcfox

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    According to the pitch, a ventless jacket would create a cleaner, sleeker silhouette
     
  17. Caustic Man

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    Historically speaking, there is some reason to believe that ventless jackets were considered more elegant because they did not have that detail which was meant to make horseback riding easier. A jacket with a vent, being designed to wear while riding, was something one wore while working, racing, or at war. A jacket without a vent was obviously impractical for exerting oneself in those ways and therefore was more genteel. Whether you believe this or not, it is an interesting idea.
     
  18. sebastian mcfox

    sebastian mcfox Senior member

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    Speaking of ventless..

    [​IMG]
     
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  19. ericgereghty

    ericgereghty Senior member

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    I still do not like ventless, but that is YUMMY
     

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