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Good Natured Advice Thread (improving a business wardrobe)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. GuP

    GuP Senior member

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    Which is a better fit?

    38R Havana

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  2. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Senior member

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    40r. No contest.
     
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  3. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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    That was pretty much my point.
     
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  4. GuP

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    Another one

    38R Hudson

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  5. GuP

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    Which is best from fit the above 3?
     
  6. heldentenor

    heldentenor Senior member

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    The 40R Hudson is still best unless there's lots of excess in the chest that the photos don't pick up. The 38 Hudson could work if you eased the waist, but right now it's pulling across your back and, to a lesser extent, at the buttoning point.
     
  7. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Senior member

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    38 has a crazy ass shoulder divot, too.
     
  8. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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    Wow, the 38 is really see-through
     
  9. Griffyndor

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    If it's a Formosa jacket then don't worry. The divots are likely disappear over time!
     
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  10. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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  11. GuP

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    More shots of the above 38r Hudson - manager was certain this was best fit, but I was unsure between the 3.

    And yes the 38r Havana had a very very open weave.

    38r Hudson - different lighting.

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  12. GuP

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    38 Hudson or Havana?
     
  13. Pliny

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    AFAIK it's only/mainly @Sander who hates whole cuts. If u go into the shoe-lover parts of the forum e.g. the shoepron thread, the bespoke thread, the Vass thread, the Japanese makers thread - you'll find plenty of love for the wholecut. The truly seamless wholecut (made from a single circular disc of leather. . Bespoke only...) is one of the Holy Grails.
     
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  14. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Manton was the original wholecut-hater AFAIK
     
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  15. venividivicibj

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    Japan maker thread has some of the most beautiful shoes on this whole site
     
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  16. archibaldleach

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    People have been burned at the stake for less. All your blue suits and jackets and you don't have a midnight dinner. For shame, sir. For shame. (If not clear, joking around...a bit...).
     
  17. Academic2

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    Keep in mind that some Suit Supply salesmen are notorious for trying to get customers to size down. I’m sure it’s not universal, but some of them seem committed to imitating the photographs on their website where the models are often wearing jackets too small for them.

    Cheers,

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  18. Academic2

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    By the way, here’s one short discussion from a number of years ago in which Manton touches upon the wholecut ‘formality’ issue in the context of the lounge suit:

    Here’s the relevant bit:

    “a plain cap is more formal than a wholecut, which is a ‘fashiony’ shoe, a recent innovation. At least, that is the way it is in the Anglo-American tradition.”

    I know he engaged in more extended discussion of the topic elsewhere …

    Cheers,

    Ac
     
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  19. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I also dislike wholecuts. More than happy to throw in with Sander and Manton on that.
     
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