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Good Natured Advice Thread (improving a business wardrobe)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. Monkeyface

    Monkeyface Senior member

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    Buy a nice PoW check tie and you're done! You could get a plain white shirt with double cuffs for a little extra formality (make sure the collar points fall under the jacket), which might make it more acceptable for your wife to be.
     
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  2. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I think the process of wardrobe building can be dangerously self-justifying with that approach. "If I buy XX, I'll have nothing that works with it, so I'll need to by XXX and XXXX as well." It probably keeps the wardrobe from feeling organic; if someone doesn't have much to go with XX, chances are he doesn't have much that'll go with XXX and XXXX either (assuming he's already acquired the staples). You have a number of branches stretching out in different directions instead of being clustered around a mean.

    After you have everything you need (the Style Forum definition of "need"), then I suppose there is no issue in wandering down an NMWA hole only to end up with some beautiful clothes, a four thousand dollar credit card bill, and a deep sense of shameful satisfaction.

    This makes me pretty boring. In general, I'm leery of any outfit that doesn't have at least two staples. I'd argue that a two non-staple mask is the sweet spot for balancing variety with consistency.
     
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  3. in stitches

    in stitches Senior member Moderator

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    rudlas, if you can pull off that daniel craig look, by all means, go for it.

    nmwa has a lovely formosa tux btw. not sure if still available in your size or not.
     
  4. Rudals

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    Had an argument with the Mrs about wearing my suit for the wedding. She was very displeased to hear it. When she brought this up with wedding shop people, they said all guys want to wear their stuff and that tuxedo is the right thing to wear regardless of the wedding time. I said F them. What the heck would they know about men's clothing. All they care about is the wedding dress. I told her I am not going to wear a cheap arse tux at noon. I said I wearing my suit with French cuffs. She found it childish of me and said let's see what looks better. Stupid wedding shop. Feeding her load of crap.
     
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  5. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    My friend wore a beautiful Oxxford glen plaid suit to his wedding here. Another a midnight blue suit with peak lapels and jetted pockets. The third wore a nice gray suit. All three are members of Korean StyFo.
     
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  6. luv2breformed

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    This is very helpful.

    I knew at the time that they certainly weren't "staple" choices, and given that I lack staples currently and the main point of this thread being to help direct me in purchasing said staples, were probably not good additions.

    I posted them in here first to receive feedback and people were generally positive. The charcoal got more love and I knew it made better sense given the fact that it have too many light jackets to begin with.

    However, clags' encouragement to consider the pants I already have in rotation kept ringing in my ears. I can think of two sets of pants I currently have that the mid gray would go smashing with (navy cords and charcoal flannels) and a 3rd that would probably work well also.

    Frankly, I decided that neither by themselves would be versatile enough to warrent a purchase, but that having both would probably give me enough options to cover both light and dark trousers. I ended up messaging the seller telling him I wanted both or none and offered him less than 80% of what he was asking:

    "Thing is, I would like both of them, as I don't have enough trousers to make each of them a proper staple separately, but together I think I will have a lot of versatility. . . Would you accept $X for the both of them?"

    He accepted.

    Did I screw up? Maybe. I probably haven't kicked this "collecting" habit that got me into my wardrobe mess to begin with. But I made a logical and informed decision after having consulted the council. Sure the logic may have been flawed (I recognize that my argument sounds an awful lot like "2 wrongs makes a right"). But actually thinking about outfits as a whole and not just isolated pieces is occurring here, and I am 100x better off than I was before. Thank you for continuing to challenge me, guys. I promise I take it all to heart even if I make a misstep here and there.
     
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  7. Monkeyface

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    It might be a good deal, but you won't end up with a solid wardrobe by going for good deals all the time. I'm sure you know this already, but it doesn't hurt stressing this point. I'd make a list of everything you need, and only buy things when they're on your list, even if there's a 90% sale going on. Of course you can change the list a bit when you get more staples, but for now, I'd stick to it. 2 plain grey odd jackets really doesn't make sense at this point in time (or ever).
     
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  9. jungleroller

    jungleroller Senior member

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    Thats how mine is. I figured it was just the style. Back from being in our lovely States Capitol all week.
     
  10. Rudals

    Rudals Senior member

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    That's really close to the edge.
     
  11. Monkeyface

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    Nothing to worry about, but I moved my buttons a bit more in. You can do it yourself if you like, takes like 2 mins.
     
  12. in stitches

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    ^^ what he said. i often move the button in on my right cuff sleeve and leave the left as is for my watch. ^^
     
  13. Sundance

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    Awesome. Thanks, guys.
     
  14. luv2breformed

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    Hey guys kamakura came in today. What do you guys this of the fit?

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    If you guys like it, I'm thinking about getting 3-5 more. I've already got a white and light blue double cuff that I like. I'd like to get a good number of these for more casual odd jacket and tweed wear. What would your top 5 be for this purpose assuming starting from scratch with this blue/white striped one. I have several ocbd right now but they are BB and don't look great with a tie.

    I'm thinking ecru ocbd, light blue oxford with a semi-spread collar. Not sure on some of the others.
     
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  15. Evolve

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    ^ Looks great to me, especially for OTR. I'd be happy with it.
     
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  16. Betelgeuse

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    This.
     
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  17. Evolve

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    Gotta say though, as nice as the shirt looks, the pants seem too small in just about every aspect. Low rise, tight all over, and very short.
     
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  18. luv2breformed

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    Thanks for the feedback, guys. The pants are my beater weekend pants, my equivalent of jeans, but the feedback there is appreciated as well and will help for future purchases.

    Any thoughts on the 5 shirts for odd jackets that I mentioned?
     
  19. Evolve

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    My top 5 OCBDs for casual wear would be blue, white, blue university stripe, red university stripe, and a wider/bengal blue stripe, like the one in your pics. I'm really loving the look of the Kamakura collars. They look great with and without a tie. Sadly, I don't think any of their fits will work for me, so I'm going to have to go through Luxire.
     
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  20. Cleav

    Cleav Senior member Moderator

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    Luv, like that Kam, suits you sir!
     
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