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Good Natured Advice Thread (improving a business wardrobe)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. The Noodles

    The Noodles Senior member

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    Just go with Kent Wang if you've considered Suit Supply.
    Wait a minute...I feel like I am a @Claghorn wannabe.
    I seem to be lead by him in the SF spirit.
    He mentions Sam Hober has the best grenade ties, then I find myself buying truck loads of them.
    He mentions Kent Wang, then all of sudden I find myself order stuff from KW website.
    Doh!


    ^KW

    I can only speak of my own experience. I was trying out just Lazios and didn't bother with other lines.
     
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  2. EFV

    EFV Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Kent Wang perhaps?
     
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  3. sebastian mcfox

    sebastian mcfox Senior member

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    I have noticed a difference in size between two exact SuSu suits of the same cut (almost 1 inch in chest measurement; 1/2 inch shoulders).

    Avoid their online size recommendation tool like the plague.

    But with free shipping/pick up and returns, just order a bunch of different sizes and cuts
     
  4. sugarbutch

    sugarbutch Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Mr. Six's trouser variety show convinced me that his jacket would look great with...

    dark gray pants. :) Any disputing this is just religious fervor.

    Caustic Man, I can't believe you're letting Noodles' opinion about SuSu sway you at all. No Noodles hate, just suggesting that his aesthetic judgments are hardly the rock of Gibraltar.
     
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  5. Darkside

    Darkside Senior member

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    While I love KW and have ordered from him multiple times in the past, his suits start at about $850-900 while you can get one from SS at around $500.

    I'm sure KW's quality is better, but that's not an insignificant price jump,especially if you are on a budget.
     
  6. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Self help self wealth books make me shake my head in shame.

    RANT (on an iPhone)

    On a related note, I watched a presentation on Richard Kiyosaki by some students. Glorifying this idea that we should strive for wealth with the minimum amount of effort (and of course, part of the sales pitch is framing anyone who wants to work for a living as a chump--the part I felt was really abhorrent).

    Growing up the child of two productive workaholics who also managed to be wonderful parents and now wonderful friends, I admittedly glorify hard work. I don't necessarily think it is its own reward, and I don't begrudge anyone the desire to get rich as quickly as possible with as little work as possible (work on average...so starting a business just so at some point you can step back from it, retire early, and enjoy the profits...the ideal I think this Kiyosaki guy advocates), but I do take some umbrage at this motivation being the primary impetus behind an individual's business/financial decisions. I think it speaks poorly of him/her.

    But then again, both my parents are super hard workers (solar physicist and AP English teacher) and all four my grandparents worked all their lives (two high school principals, a lawyer and a farmer/businessman, with two being immigrants and one being one of those rags to riches stories you hear about...granted those riches came when she was in her late 50s/early 60's...and they came from property investment rather than hard work...but those investments were made in the hopes of security, not an easy life, and she continued teaching long after they started making returns). So this biases me.

    Or maybe I'm just too American. I know we work like fiends over here, often with little to show in terms of added productivity (though we aren't anywhere near as bad as Koreans, though that's an unfair comparison since their organizational culture, specifically the reason for working long hours, is so very different from ours).

    End rant.

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    @TheNoodles

    And I hope you don't feel led astray. Those pants are perhaps the best fitting I've seen on you, particularly the thigh area.

    But in general, I give very safe, uncontroversial advice.

    Also, you still are very Noodles. How many times have I suggested you get a SuSu Lazio, and how many do you own?
     
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  7. The Noodles

    The Noodles Senior member

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    And can someone get this guy off their website?!
    He annoys the heck out of me with his goofy poses.
    Why didn't they select @Coxsackie instead of this goofball?
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  8. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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    RTW vs MTM is a big jump also. If you're going for the MTM vs MTM, prices are similar. Also I dont think the cheapest SS are fully canvassed.
     
  9. sebastian mcfox

    sebastian mcfox Senior member

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  10. TM79

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    Haha ... I've always thought those pictures were really stupid. Good to hear someone else say it.
     
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  11. archibaldleach

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    I guess that's what I get for looking at photos on my phone. I don't disagree with your comment on point #2; that's why I said contrast is generally useful (it is; the fact that it is not always necessary does not mean that it can't be generally useful). Summer involves wearing lighter colors which narrows the potential range of contrast, meaning low contrast looks are more likely to occur. That just makes sense to me, though sometimes the low contrast looks can be tough to pull off. I really have no interest in re-litigating point 3 any further at this time; I thought my comment on it was pretty nuanced and balanced a generally useful rule with acknowledgement of a reasonable number of exceptions.
     
  12. EliodA

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    He's somewhat famous in Holland, the country where SuSu comes from.
     
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  13. The Noodles

    The Noodles Senior member

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    Still, he looks dumb. What can I say.

    v This guy is somewhat famous in Korea, the country where B&T comes from.
    [​IMG]


     
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  14. EliodA

    EliodA Senior member

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    LOL. He's the gangnam style guy, isn't he? Hope he won't be modelling for B&T any time soon [​IMG]
     
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  15. Joenobody0

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    I think their sizing algorithm is "figure out the correct size, then suggest 4 inches smaller". Their 'site sized me as a 34 back when I regularly wore 38's without excess fabric. :paranoia:
     
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  16. Joenobody0

    Joenobody0 Senior member

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    I don't know about KW, and I'm not sure I'd trust the suit suggestions of someone who just recently bought a pair of slacks, but at least the Wang stuff is full canvassed. A quick Google search shows some shitty MTM fits though.
     
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  17. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Well, I'm in the process of getting my first KW suit (after ordering half his squares over the last couple of years). So we'll see how it ends up looking on me. Because if it looks good on me, it looks good on everybody. Clearly. Because that's how real shit works.
     
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  18. sebastian mcfox

    sebastian mcfox Senior member

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    I would only do KW MTM if I had my measurements taken in person (in NY, by appointment). The ol' 'send us some photos and we'll figure out adjustments from there' approach didn't end well when I did MTM KW shirts
     
  19. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I do think it would behoove KW to provide a modest tailoring credit.
     
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  20. Joenobody0

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    It seemed like people who knew what they were doing had good results, and people who didn't... were iffy. I'm sure yours will be good, so I just bought one based on the future goodness of your purchase. :slayer:
     

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