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Good Natured Advice Thread (improving a business wardrobe)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. Rudals

    Rudals Senior member

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    Old Rudals - Order $400 RLBL shirts online only to find out that the collars are too effing short! 4 of them.
    Old Rudals - Order $400 Zegna shirts online. The collars are fine but overpaid.
    Old Rudals - Get $250 ties from NM
    Old Rudals - Go to Zegna boutique store and pay $3,000 for a suit that has narrow peak lapels. IDIOT!
    Old Rudals - Buy 2!!!!! $700 RLBL shoes and they don't fit.
    Old Rudals - Go to NM and buys an ill-fitting Isaia suit for $3,500
    Old Rudals = [email protected] effing retard who thought price and quality had a correlation

    New Rudals = Listens well to SF mentors. Returned everything bought from NM. Knows appropriate ties, shirts, suits. Don't know shoes yet. Don't know boxers but likes Target Hanes.

    Prices have been included in order to convey my stupidity, not bragging. I is so stupid.
     
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  2. luv2breformed

    luv2breformed Senior member

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    FWIW I wear Under Armor boxer briefs and think they're great. They weren't super cheap, but they fit well and are much better than the plain cotton boxers I was wearing.
     
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  3. Rudals

    Rudals Senior member

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    NM never disappoints...$100 for this?!
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  4. Monkeyface

    Monkeyface Senior member

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    For what it's worth, I wear grey/black H&M boxer briefs. I think they're like €10 for 3, they're very comfy, unbranded, and look great.
     


  5. mimo

    mimo Pernicious Enabler

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    Noodles, I have some undershirts from Hanes. Simple white 100% cotton...hard to go wrong for about $3 a piece! But they don't keep their shape as well as pricier, finer ones. Still, when you're talking $3 or $10, you can afford to say you get what you pay for! The thing is to hit a sweet spot before you fall off the price cliff of rapidly diminishing returns. That spot is frequently when you start quoting the name of a familiar designer label...
     


  6. Cleav

    Cleav Senior member Dubiously Honored Moderator

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    Luv, again, just from my eye and I am not familiar with AE so I'm happy to be corrected, my tuppence (2 cents)

    I've owned that type of shoe back in the day and fell out of love with em v quickly. The suede wasn't the best and scuffed up quickly, the brogueing, punch detail highlighted the issue.
    The soles were too thick and made the shoe difficult to wear with sleeker fits reducing it to a country brogue, and for me there's other places to go for that.

    The two suedes I shared earlier of mine are very simple, I also have plain monk (Monkton)


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    and a plain suede derby (C n J Dartmouth).


    With a colour balance- choc, snuff etc you get the versatility to wear with different greys or browns


    Here's one of my whole cuts too OOI


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    As I said before I have spent much mula on stuff that I thought was the bees knees only to quickly realise my impulsive reflex actually put me back some way. I now know what works for me yet still learn, sometimes begrudgingly, everyday.

    So, when all this advice is flying around I am all ears (eyes), comfortable in what I am and what works for me and open minded enough to take on-board the wise words of others.

    I wish the same for you my friend, or should i say Luv!
     


  7. Rudals

    Rudals Senior member

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    Uncle Nemo,
    I...honestly...I just can't afford expensive undies. The only ones that fall within my price range is Hanes. It's lovely because it shrinks every time you wash them and it made me wonder if I was getting fat (which was true in this case).

    Can someone find me a grenadine tie in charcoal grey? I think Sam Hober has only mid grey. I am looking for one like below.

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  8. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    i feel like i have failed you. i am so sorry. i dont have the time or brain space at work today to really get into the meat and potatoes here today. :(

    ill get back at it though.


    under armor 9" boxer jocks are the best underwear in the universe. changed my life.
     


  9. mimo

    mimo Pernicious Enabler

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    You don't need another solid grey tie. Now be quiet for a bit, get ready for your day trying on and photographing but not buying suits tomorrow, and let us help out LTBR for a minute.
     


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  11. luv2breformed

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    You haven't failed me. I've got plenty of fine gentlemen already helping me out. Plus we have mostly established that purging is the first order of business, and that may take me a while. You will probably come in at the tail of that and can be a great asset once I start looking to kop! :)

    Rudals these are the same underwear that I was referring to.
     
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  12. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    yes, i saw that advise as i was catching up. i certainly agree that purging your closet of the bad comes first. it will give you $ to kop new stuff, and more importantly, it will leave you with a better idea of what good stuff you have, and then by omission, what you need to add.

    i just wish i was in the game enough now to help you decide what to purge.

    as always, i am super happy to encourage koppage.
     
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  13. TM79

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    I buy Flint & Tinder boxer briefs and I hate to say it, but I buy Banana Republic plain white undershirts - the BR ones don't have a harsh Kanye West v-neck and they are tagless and extremely soft and breathable. I've tried Polo, Hugo Boss and some others and they have a very sharp v-neck. And I won't pay $40+ for white tees so other brands will never be tested by me.

    The Flint & Tinder stuff is also extremely soft and breathable.
     


  14. Sundance

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    CBD Tie Primer



    Hello everybody!

    First of all, let me say that lurking this thread has been thoroughly enjoyable. Without distracting too much from the proceedings, I’d appreciate it greatly if yall could help orient me a little on CBD ties. I don’t want to interrupt too much or redirect the conversation so even short and sweet advice is appreciated. All thoughts welcome, and thank you in advance!

    --Sundance



    Here’s the situation: while I don’t currently own a single stitch of CBD, in a few months I’m moving into a conservative field and need to enter with at least a starter wardrobe—and though I basically understand the ‘standards’ for suits and shoes I’m a little lost on ties. With very little disposable income on hand, I need to start slowly and carefully, prioritizing unassuming pieces for maximum replay value. This thread has provided lots of great advice on particulars, but I haven’t really been able to figure out the underlying theory of the most basic options. I reckon I just haven’t had the long-term daily exposure to CBD required to internalize the rules, so I need a cheat sheet to get me started. Can yall help me out?






    Question 1: RULES

    Here’s the best I can figure:

    CBD colors:
    1. Navy
    2. Burgundy
    …?

    CBD styles:
    1. Solid (/grenadine)
    2. Repp stripe
    3. Pindot
    4. Neat
    …?






    Question 2: COLLECTION

    I’ve seen some folks on here say they couldn’t possibly get by with fewer than 50 ties, but that kind of “minimum” number is unattainable to me at this point in time. So what’s actually the barest acceptable collection for daily wear? I don’t really care about special-occasion ties (“you need to have a shepherd’s check for a wedding!”) or anything seasonal (“wool for winter!”), just those maximally functional for weekday business year-round. Maybe sixteen, for a three-week rotation? I’ll assume that number for the sake of argument but tell me if I need to adjust my parameters.

    So, buying no more than one batch of four ties each quarter, how would you build out a sixteen-count set of CBD ties over the course of a year? Batch #1 is going to see a lot of repetition. Specific suggestions welcome, but please keep in mind that no matter how lovely I find some of the ties that showed up earlier in the thread (Cappelli, Drakes), I can’t really spend more than $80 apiece—so Hober’s about my limit. For grounding the palette assume a navy suit, black shoes, solid blue or white shirt—again I can’t do more than basics. My initial, unfinished list below, with lots of navy (blame my limited visual imagination and determination to hew as conservative as possible). I welcome any suggestions yall may have.


    1. Navy grenadine
    2. Burgundy grenadine
    3. Black grenadine
    4. Navy/white repp
    *
    5. Navy/white pindot
    6. Burgundy neat
    7. Navy/green repp
    8. Dark brown grenadine
    *
    9. Navy neat
    10. ?
    11. ?
    12. ?
    *
    13. ?
    14. ?
    15. ?
    16. ?
     


  15. sugarbutch

    sugarbutch Bearded Prick Dubiously Honored

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    I don't understand pricey underwear.
     


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