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Good Natured Advice Thread (improving a business wardrobe)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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    My point is why would noodles pay 500, let alone 1250 for pants when he doesn't even know what he wants?
     
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  2. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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    Will somebody buy me some $1250 Ambrosi pants?

    stitchy? noodles? justinkapur? pck1?

    kthnx bai
     
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  3. in stitches

    in stitches Senior member Moderator

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    Noodles, I think you are simply too worried about things. Nothing will ever be perfect. Smoke a doobie in that Formosa and just relax it Jaxson.
     
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  4. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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    el oh el
     
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  5. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I think it just depends how important pants are to you. For someone that really just sees them as fabric which connects his shoes to his jacket, spending 1250 won't ever make sense (though spending 4k on a jacket would).

    If pants get you hard, on the other hand, then 1250 for a pair is fine (provided you can afford it)
     
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  6. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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    how much are pants from BNT?
     
  7. PCK1

    PCK1 Senior member

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    This is a very good point.

    I have never had a pair of trousers fit comfortably other than bespoke options...which is one of the major reasons I consider the cost acceptable. And in terms of fit...Ambrosi really knows what he is doing.
     
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  8. justinkapur

    justinkapur Senior member

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    I can understand that. I thought cheap jackets looked ok on me. Then I started spending more and finding how much better they fit and drape.

    I respect am jealous of a dude that can drop that kind of cash on a trouser
     
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  9. heldentenor

    heldentenor Senior member

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    The joke writes itself. [​IMG]
     
  10. heldentenor

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    This is something I'm really curious about: how many consider themselves clothing "generalists" who care relatively equally about all aspects of their wardrobe, and how many are "specialists" who care primarily about one aspect and build functionally around that?

    I'm a "specialist" whose interest is largely in sportcoats and ties, and whose shirts, shoes, and trousers are purely complementary.
     
  11. jcmeyer

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    Fair point and a fine way to rationalize it, which I'm always a fan of! Like Justin, I didn't mean to imply that it's not a cool thing to be able to do, just that I'm in no position to do it.


    SF-approved sesh :nodding:
     
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  12. in stitches

    in stitches Senior member Moderator

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    From a fit and comfort standpoint I have a harder time with trousers than anything else. If I had the dough Id happily drop 1k or more for perfectly fitted supremely comfortable pants if thats what I needed. Fortunately, I dont think I need to.
     
  13. The Noodles

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    First off, thank you for your post. But I simply wanted to discuss. I may have come across as indecisive but I am not. People told me to try Suit Supply do I did. I found that what the local store carried was P.O.S. and there were inconsistencies in sizing. Formosa? I would like to get one but I've gotten all the RTWs that I want and am looking into MTO. B&T is most likely the next place that I will go to get suits from. Until then, I may look at Formosa MTO or Kent Wang. I am liking his trousers thus far. And there is no way in hell that I will be paying full retail for a Zegna or an Isaia suit nor do I have any interest in them.

    That is why I am looking at filling in the holes with odd trousers. (I don't know about jackets). Speaking of trousers, is this Panta mid gray?http://www.pantaclothing.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=SignaMohair&CartID=1

    And $1,250 for a pair of trousers is too extreme for me.
     
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  14. losrockets

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    I wear out pants like a motherfucker. Guess it's my thighs. There are a lot of jokes here but seriously. If it's got something remotely resembling a woolen flannel texture it's gonna start to pill, even my Barbera and Corneliani (for PRL) trousers. I've started wearing braces w/ the PRL trousers (also double forward pleated with a very high rise, like 12" because they're OTR, I'd prefer maybe 10.5-11 but whatever, when I can afford Luxire I'll request it) and maybe that'll help with the wear. But the point of this was to say I feel like shirts and pants, being closest to the body (undergarments excepted), wear out the fastest for most people and for that reason I can't justify spending $1250 on a pair of pants, amazing though they may be.
     
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    PCK1 Senior member

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    Sounds like your fit issues with off-the-rack trousers are causing them to wear out...bespoke would solve this problem...hence they wouldn't wear nearly as quickly.
     
  16. Academic2

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    Trousers are hard.

    It’s my impression that these days there’s even more variability in off-the-rack trousers from one maker to another then there is with jackets, for example (and lord knows there’s plenty of variability in jackets, too).

    For instance, think how different the rise can be from one brand to another.

    And the thighs.

    And the …

    Cheers,

    Ac
     
  17. losrockets

    losrockets Senior member

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    @PCK1 Do you think so? I mean this as a sincere question as I'd really prefer this to NOT be an issue. I don't have huge hulking quads but they're pretty large/muscular and well, I'm not a 22 year old girl with thigh gap, so unless I hit the hip abductor/adductor hard at the gym I'm not sure how a custom pair of trousers will remedy this. As I mentioned, I've noticed this is an issue predominantly with the woolen flannels because they wear fastest. Perhaps a higher rise will reduce friction - that's the experiment I'm currently conducting. Does anybody know for sure what this is a product of? If it's excess material around the thighs...well, less and my legs are gonna feel like sausages. Have people solved this issue by going MTM/bespoke?
     
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  18. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I think around 6-700 for midrange fabric. No idea CMT.


    I am definitely a specialist. Ties, squares, and jackets.
     
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  19. PCK1

    PCK1 Senior member

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    Well...I think the first question to ask is how many days do you wear the same pair of trousers in a week?

    Flannel is notorious for wearing quickly...especially if overworn.

    While fit definitely can influence it...it may also be best for you to consider other materials....do you have these same issues with other cloths?
     
  20. losrockets

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    I've had the issue, to a lesser extent, with cheap cotton-linen blends (another relatively textured fabric) and again, a lesser/nearly nonexistent degree with any worsted wools. I try to wear my pants no more than once a week, but because I'm a medical student I do a lot of walking, which I imagine hastens the wear process. Not really other cloths (eg. cotton). It's been more prominent on a pair of Brooks Brothers flannel trousers (Made in Canada IIRC) I recently thrifted than a pair of PRL flannels I've had for over a year so quality may have something to do with it also.
     

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