Good Natured Advice Thread (improving a business wardrobe)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. macjedi

    macjedi Senior member

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    Not the most revealing photos, but this is a Sam Hober tie I got last year. I think it's the best tie I've ever owned, but from what I've been reading, there's so much I don't know about ties. Does it look good? Width good? Knot good? Length has been the biggest issue for me and though I don't have any photos of the bottom, I think it's pretty good. This is a 3.5" x 53". I'd appreciate any thoughts and direction. Thanks!!!


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  2. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    It's a staple for formal CBD. Most thorough wardrobes should have at least one of these. Best worn with a navy suit, white shirt, and black shoes. A silver grenadine fills the same function in my wardrobe as that probably does with yours.
     


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    @macjedi I'd prefer smaller knot.
     


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    @macjedi, great tie. I'm not sure I'd change a thing about it. Claghorn's navy suit, white shirt, black shoes pairing is exactly right. Great for weddings (I believe it is actually a wedding tie), though can definitely be worn in conservative corporate settings or other celebratory events that call for a suit.
     


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    Disagree. Just about perfect.
     


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    I think you meant to say me gusta, Murl. Mi gusta suggests you have inexplicably strong feelings for me.
     


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    Well, I guess they wouldn't be truly inexplicable. I am me after all. :)
     


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    Would have been, with a taller shirt collar.
     


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    Thanks so much guys! I'll plan on getting a couple more with the same specs. Now I need to nail down the fabrics. I hope to get a few yay or nays when I narrow them down. Thanks again!
     


  11. macjedi

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    Thanks! I might have been able to make it smaller by making the knot tighter too, right? Or is that just nonsense? I am trying out a different collar that is supposed to be a bit higher and the points a bit longer. That was my first shirt from Proper Cloth. I Think it's the English spread and I'm trying out the Presidential spread which should arrive in the next day or two. I hope to get your guys opinion on that as well. Thanks again!
     


  12. EliodA

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    Well, as you can see from the comments above, opinion is divided on the subject. While I agree that the knot by itself is just about perfect, personally I feel it's too big in relation to your shirt collar. The height of the knot is too similar to the length of your collars. It looks better to my eyes if there's a bit more difference. Actually, I think a higher shirt collar would be the way to go for you.
    Anyway, this is all just nit picking of course, that tie and the whole ensemble already look great as is now.
     
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  13. sugarbutch

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    Then lambaste his collar! :)

    Seriously, though, I think the collar/knot relationship you're describing may be unique to you. A taller collar band would be an improvement, though.
     


  14. EliodA

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    I just did! Well, not exactly lambasting though... [​IMG]
    It's probably something personal, true. But not unique, I think: @Betelgeuse seems to share my preferences and IMO he consistently gets it right re. tie knot/shirt collar proportions.
     
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    It's physically possible, of course, but over-tightening isn't good for the tie. Most tie makers don't recommend it.

    If you're buying from Hober you get to specify the measurements at various points in the tie, of course. That's a better way to make adjustments in knot size, I think. However, since there are lots of other elements in this particular equation (fabric, construction, interlining, etc.), it's best to consult them. David can be very helpful when it comes to questions like this.

    Cheers,

    Ac
     


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