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Good Natured Advice Thread (improving a business wardrobe)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. bmwahba39

    bmwahba39 Well-Known Member

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    Well, I saw your response before you edited it but thank you, I just find it hard to believe that there would not be any possible combinations with this shirt that would look good. Even a simple polka dot navy tie? Like I understand the conservatism here, but seriously?

    Also, I'm not trying to argue, if that's what my text kind of sounds like. I'm learning here and my questions aren't any more than that, just questions.
     
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    I kinda figured that.
    Good advice though.
     
  3. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Senior member

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    No dots. Dots are too small. The smallness of the shirt pattern and the smallness of polka dots will clash, Don't go for bigger dots either because that will look clownish. Think contrast. Not contrast of colors or tones, but contrast of pattern scale. If you MUST use another pattern a wide stripe would be your VERY best bet. Remember, what you mistake for simple conservatism is actually an experience of tried and true methods. Someone who wears a seatbelt every time they get behind the wheel isn't being conservative, they just know better.
     
  4. bmwahba39

    bmwahba39 Well-Known Member

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    Alright, that's understandable.

    Would a grenadine tie work well in this situation? Solid color, but still has a textured 'pattern'?
     
  5. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Senior member

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    That would be better than a pattern, yes.
     
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    Brilliant.
     
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  7. bmwahba39

    bmwahba39 Well-Known Member

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    Great, so a grenadine tie in what color? Burgundy? Olive?
     
  8. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Senior member

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    See, this is where it gets hard and why I recommended against that shirt. I'd say your best bet is navy or black, but you're killing me here.
     
  9. bmwahba39

    bmwahba39 Well-Known Member

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    Hahaha, okay.

    Thanks for your help thus far, it's greatly appreciated. At this point I'm stuck with a shirt that's apparently awful and nothing else to the outfit and prom is in two weeks!
     
  10. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Senior member

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    One man's opinion. Which is why I hoped someone else would jump in. Someone who isn't so crusty and conservative as me. [​IMG]
     
  11. bmwahba39

    bmwahba39 Well-Known Member

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    Come on now, I never said that. But it would be nice to have some other opinions here folks!
     
  12. heldentenor

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    Let's not get carried away. Lavender puppytooth wouldn't be my first choice, but I've seen the Shibumi boys rock similar scales (though usually in light blue) to excellent effect. Let's make the best of it, shall we?

    Grenadine is a good instinct here. My immediate choice with a navy suit for an evening event would be a black garza fina or garza piccola weave. @bmwahba39 , do you know where to find one of those? If not, we can help.

    Call me conservative, but for an evening event with a patterned shirt, I'd go white linen or bordered white linen 10 times out of 10.

    What's you shoe situation?
     
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  13. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Senior member

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    You shut your mouth!
     
  14. bmwahba39

    bmwahba39 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the response! I do not know where I could find those, and glad you mentioned that because I'm having trouble sourcing grenadine ties in general. Is black my only option for the tie here? Even on a navy suit..?

    I think I will go with the white pocket square without a doubt. It's a safe route.

    Shoe situation, I have a pair of AE Strands. Should I wear them or no?
     
  15. bmwahba39

    bmwahba39 Well-Known Member

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    Can we possibly do a darker purple grenadine tie here?
     
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    @Claghorn is the resident tie expert, but I'd take a look at exquisitetrimmings.com whose grenadines are held in high regard and who are currently running a nice weekend discount. @davesmith , the proprietor, is a regular here and is very helpful. They ship from the UK, but if you have two weeks you should be fine. Other options include Sam Hober (www.samhober) but they take three weeks. Chipp grenadines aren't the equals of Hober or ET, but they are a good backup plan since they ship from the US.

    What color are your Strands? Black is ideal in the evening, but dark brown could be okay too.
     
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  17. bmwahba39

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    Strands are walnut, not that dark.

    I'm going to backtrack a little bit and toss out the idea of our Lavender/Lilac/awfulness shirt, just for the sake of experimentation.

    If you could pick any shirt to use here, what would you go for?

    I have a Light blue and white check shirt that I think might be a little more versatile here.
     
  18. heldentenor

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    You may see it as group think, but nearly all of us would pick a solid white shirt as the ideal for an evening social gathering like prom. It opens up so many other choices with regard to tie, square, and I would argue, even shoes--your Strands will look better at night with a white shirt.

    If the blue check is the same scale as the lavender and you want to wear checks, pick whichever you prefer--blue is more conventional, but for me that's a personal preference.
     
  19. gdl203

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    Man, is this really still the good-natured advice thread? :roma: Poor guy is taking a beating.

    That shirt is fine and it will look fine under a navy suit. Get a navy, black or very dark purple grenadine tie and a white hanky and you're good to go party and have fun.

    Sure, you could swap it for a white shirt and kick the formality up a notch, but there's really nothing about your shirt to be so adamantly against it.
     
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  20. Pb924

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    @bmwahba39 +1 on a solid shirt. White preferably. or very light blue
     

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