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Going to French Laundry for the first time, need some suggestions

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by Saltricks, Sep 23, 2011.

  1. gomestar

    gomestar Super Yelper

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    I actually looked at the Per Se list again today, and I think I found some decent values. Not good, in fact the pricing is pretty terrible, but I still think they're of ok value compared to the other stuff on the Per Se list. A 1er Chablis from a great producer and a 1er from Vosne-Romanee from a producer I've enjoyed in the past (and the 1er is available in both 1996 and 2002, both vintages I like). I never thought I'd be able to find two wines like this on the Per Se list for a combined $575, but I have!!
     


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    my guess is that if you really scoured the list, you'd find a couple of surprises. granted, not big-name wines, but delicious wines that you've probably never heard of that would pair well with the food. there's an art to building a big-deal list. you've got to have all the first growths and culties for the high-rollers to feel like they're getting their experience; but you've also got to leaven it with some decent values, or at least, decent enough while still fitting the profit margin requirements.
     


  3. Saltricks

    Saltricks Senior Member

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    Fair enough, Some wines on there fit my budget...but should I just ask the sommellier to choose and give him our price range? I really have no idea what would be a good deal or what would taste good at all with my food.
     


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    that's exactly what i would do. be completely honest (and even better, do it in advance so they have some time to do some homework). "this meal is a very big moment for me, but i'm afraid i can only afford to spend $150 to $200 on wines. What do you recommend?"
    this won't work at every restaurant, but at most every great restaurant, the staff is really invested in making sure you have a memorable evening. they'll bend over backwards to make sure it works.
    quick story: i was in the restaurant one night when a guy was going to propose. he'd e-mailed them a couple of months in advance, had them build a chocolate model of his house with a removable roof where he was going to put the ring. they did it, took a couple of tries to get it to his satisfaction. at the end, he was e-mailing like every day and a half (think conne). finally, the big night came ... and he left the ring in his car. so the manager (TKs fiancee) had to walk a couple of blocks ... in the rain ... to the car to fetch the ring.
    I don't even want to know what that bill was. couldn't have been enough.
     


  5. gomestar

    gomestar Super Yelper

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    I found the '86 Mouton Rothschild for $1650, which isn't bad at all considering wine-searcher is showing me it's available for $900-1000 in stores.

    But eff me, I was looking in Per Se's half-bottle section :fu: The full bottle is on their list for $5,100


    I'm sure there are hidden values, but I have never had to look so hard.
     


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    gomestar Super Yelper

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    +1, this is a good idea. I'd simply ask for delicious wines that are versatile with the menu that night, or do the wines by the glass.
     


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    You won't get the "Oh. Well, I know who's not going to be tipping me tonight. " and subsequent inattentive service if you mention you're a student?
     


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    service compris!
     


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    Considering service is included, probably not.
     


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    gomestar Super Yelper

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    but you're apparently supposed to tip something extra even though service is already included?
     


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    of course you can if you choose. but it's an extra 2% to 3% (to get to 20%) and i don't think it's really that critical. OTOH, if they set you up with wine pairings that knock your socks off and do it within your budget, that probably deserves a couple bucks.
     


  12. kwilkinson

    kwilkinson Having a Ball

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    Not only would bringing in a wine thats on the list be a major faux pas, but it probably wouldnt even be allowed. I know I dont allow people to bring in wine that I sell.
     


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    Ah, thanks. That makes the pricing look a hint more reasonable.
     


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    GQgeek Stylish Dinosaur

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    yes, but as has been amply demonstrated by your moderation of DT, you are a bit of a tyrant. A guy can't even post a pic of his ex without you coming along and deleting posts!
     


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    kwilkinson Having a Ball

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    If being a tyrant puts me in the same camp as Master Somm Matt Stamp, im okay with it.
     


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