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God made all of us

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by matadorpoeta, Aug 5, 2008.

  1. emptym

    emptym Senior member Moderator

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    Sorry about that. Sorry if it seems that way. Not trying to be provocative or mean. Just curious. Many people are not willing to believe. I was just wondering why you are willing.
     
  2. Shraka

    Shraka Senior member

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    Sorry about that. Sorry if it seems that way. Not trying to be provocative or mean. Just curious. Many people are not willing to believe. I was just wondering why you are willing.

    I'm willing to believe in things that have some evidence and seem logical. I'll believe Jesus was a real person when I see evidence to satisfy my level of requirement for 'proof'.

    I still wont believe he was god, or that there even is a god. My world view is that there isn't, and I like it that way. I don't really want a big fluffy entity looking after me, I kinda like the world without it, as it makes you more responsible for your own actions. I could be wrong though, and I'm willing to change my mind on even that if I see enough evidence (of which I have seen very little, and all of that is very shaky at best).
     
  3. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I'm willing to believe in things that have some evidence and seem logical. I'll believe Jesus was a real person when I see evidence to satisfy my level of requirement for 'proof'.

    Do you believe this about the thousands of other historical figures for whom we have only stories and statues but no DNA evidence. Who is to say that any of them ever existed, and that the writings attributed to the great ancient authors were even done by them?

    Believing that there is no God because you like it that way, or because you don't want to believe in one seems to put you on foundation no less shaky than the most ardent theist.
     
  4. Shraka

    Shraka Senior member

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    Do you believe this about the thousands of other historical figures for whom we have only stories and statues but no DNA evidence. Who is to say that any of them ever existed, and that the writings attributed to the great ancient authors were even done by them?
    Many historical figures have ledgers, logs, memoirs and stories written containing them. As I understand it, Jesus does not.

    That's not even my point though, if you'd read through my posts (which I don't think you have). Apparently blackplatano has some evidence that Jesus exists. I simply want to see it, that's all.

    Believing that there is no God because you like it that way, or because you don't want to believe in one seems to put you on foundation no less shaky than the most ardent theist.
    It ALSO seems illogical to me to think there is one without a decent amount of evidence. The only evidence I've seen so far is people saying they spoke to him, which I don't give a great deal of weight to when stories of who god is conflict so much. Also, many things people have said were god have been scientifically explained away, which leads me to think god only exists as our explanation for the unexplained.
     

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