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Giving PHs a Try

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by cahlersmeyer, Sep 19, 2012.

  1. cahlersmeyer

    cahlersmeyer Senior member

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    Hello all, Iurk way too much haha!

    Just finished the 10 week program from M&F it was good, but I wouldn't call it a "mass" routine. I think whatever mass I added came from the creatine.

    I do notice some areas lacking, and I can't seem to get past a certain weight and size barrier. Doc thinks this is because I spent too much time in HS trying to stay at a light weight for wrestling and I've messed up my body growth. I am 5'6" (+1" on my father) and around 145lbs (-50lbs from by father, and -65 on my older brother, both of whom are very fit and very wide)

    In an effort to blast though this, with a Doc's tentative blessing, I'm doing a cycle of HDrol. Ten days of 50mg/day and 14 days at 75/mg a day with a pretty rigorous weight schedule. I will be taking milk thistle and a multivitamin to protect my organs. I have a proper PCT in place. Also, creatine 5mg/day pre-workout and a protein shake preworkout.

    I am hitting chest and biceps twice a week, everything else once. Those are the areas that are lacking the most. My traps and shoulders are great, as are my back and legs.

    Thought I would share and talk about my results about half way, at the end of the cycle and at the end of PCT for anyone that has been thinking about running a similar test increasing product. I'm going to give a no BS assessment, I won't recommend it if it sucks.

    Below is my routine.
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    Monday - Chest/ Shoulders
    Chest Bench press
    Shoulders Overhead barbell press
    Chest Chest Flyes
    Shoulders Lateral Raise


    Tuesday - Abs/Forearms
    Forearms Forearm Curl
    Abs Sit-Ups
    Abs Leg Raises
    Abs Mountain Climbers (got really good at these at Basic Training!)


    Wednesday - Legs/Biceps
    Biceps EZ Bar Curl
    Biceps Preacher Curl
    Biceps Hammer Curl
    Legs Squat
    Legs Leg Curl
    Legs Calf Raise

    Thursday REST DAY


    Friday - Chest 2/Triceps
    Chest Incline Bench Press 2
    Triceps Dips
    Chest Chest Flyes 2
    Triceps Cable Pull Down


    Saturday REST DAY


    Sunday - Back/Biceps 2

    Biceps EZ Bar Curl 2
    Back T-Bar row
    Biceps Hammer Curl
    Back Dumbbell row
    Back Upright Row
    Back Shrugs
     
  2. fuji

    fuji Senior member

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    145lb and running a cycle lolololololol is this real life.
     
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  3. cahlersmeyer

    cahlersmeyer Senior member

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    Normally someone replying would get all butt hurt and bent out of shape because they are a stupid 16 yo kid that read an article about them in a magazine and thinks, "hey! I wanna get big without any work! Sign me up!"

    I've had the proper blood work done, my T levels are low for my age and genetics and my doc admits that a cycle is worth a shot. I've been lifting for years, eating right, etc. I'm not an idiot.
     
  4. fuji

    fuji Senior member

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    If I doctor is willing to let you use them why don't you go to an endocrinologist and get real testosterone and real nolvadex or clomid or whatever PCT you want and run a proper cycle, or even better since your test is low just stay on it and don't bother cycling it. a 3 week cycle isn't a cure for low t. You'll run the cycle, have high test for a few weeks, low test for a few weeks afterwards and be back to normal. If it is legitimately low you should have no problem getting a prescription. It'll be safer then PHs and you'll have better results. Also if you've been lifting for years and only weigh 145 maybe you should look at your training or eat more.
     
  5. stinger70

    stinger70 Senior member

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    Done a lot of research into H-drol myself, decided against it because although it doesnt give many estrogenic sides, it's pretty harsh on the body in other ways and i found a fair few stories of people having nasty experiences with it. It's also not that good and on an 8 week cycle you might gain like 5lb of muscle if you do everything perfect, which you wont judging by results so far. You are doing a 4 week cycle which is a waste of time and if you had done any research you would know that it doesnt even kick in till around week 4, when you cycle would be finishing. Milk thistle and a multi wont "protect your organs" against a methylated steroid lol. What sort of a doctor recommends PHs. Please dont go ahead with this cycle.
     

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