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Giving Notice

Discussion in 'Business, Careers & Education' started by gladhands, May 31, 2011.

  1. dragon8

    dragon8 Senior member

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    I decided to be a stand-up guy, but hedged my bets in doing so. I verbally told my boss that I would be leaving in the coming months, but did not tender a formal letter of resignation.

    I've been asked to assist in finding and training my replacement.


    I'm proud to have acted like a professional and been treated like one. I get the distinct feeling that someone in this thread gave notice and was promptly walked out of building...but I'm sure it was a top-notch outfit.

    Glad to know everything worked out well. Best of luck to you and the family.
     
  2. Jangofett

    Jangofett Senior member

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    You would be able to cash out your vacation.

    Well, it depends.

    I have worked for this company, where over several years, I literally took less than 2 weeks worth of vacation and sick leave. In return, when I left, they stiffed me out of paying me for my vacation.

    And this is a company, which made tons of money over minor overheads and could pay me say 3 to 5 grand as a Christmas bonus. Instead, they paid me zero.
     
  3. Piobaire

    Piobaire Senior member

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    Yes, this talk about your PTO/sick/vacation time...our policy is that once you give notice you cannot use your PTO. This prevents line staff from scheduling a two week vacation and then giving two weeks notice, basically ending their employment immediately, causing a staffing issue, yet the employee gets paid. That's just stupid to allow if you run a company. If you give notice and work out your notice you will be paid your PTO at the end of your employment. If you are terminated or quit without notice your PTO goes *poof*.

    What I am saying is, assumptions that you will automatically get your time off paid out are bad assumptions. Check the company policy (this is not to you gladhands, since you thankfully seem to be having a friendly seperation, but as a general rule for those thinking of quitting).

    Btw, LD? Colour my labour.
     
  4. thebac

    thebac Senior member

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    Actually, it depends on state law.

    In some states, the employer is lawfully obligated to pay our your unused accrued vacation.

    In other states, no such obligation exists, and it's up to the employer's discretion (some will pay out as a matter of company policy, but others won't).

    You would be able to cash out your vacation.

    Notice to the employer is a courtesy and nowhere in the laws state you must give it unless its in your employment contract. Granted, if you didn't give notice your chances of ever returning are zero.

    Unemployment (at least in CA) is determined not by whether you quit or got fired but by the underlying events that led to your seperation of employment.
     
  5. otc

    otc Senior member

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    Yeah, a lot of companies do it anyway (which makes sense...PTO is something you earn at most places and part of your compensation package...the way I see it, accrued PTO is no different than back pay).

    In IL, employers have to cash you out at any change of employment--My employer changed the shell company that was issuing the paycheck (same job, same company, just has a different version of the parent company's LLC on top of the check) and we were required to either accept a cash payment for all vacation or sign a waiver to transfer the time to the new LLC.

    If you aren't in a state that forces the payment and your company doesn't have a policy to pay it out, I would suggest burning up vacation time before you tell them. Also, my suggestion (IANAL) for the gladhands situation would be similar to what he did but maybe even more vague:
    Tell them that you are moving out of state in a few months. This doesn't imply that you are quitting so you probably won't hurt your unemployment case if they fire you immediately (you could be trying to telecommute or something) but your boss will get the idea.
    This actually worked out pretty well for a friend of mine...he was moving to Chicago so his fiance could go to grad school and fully intended to quit his job and find a new one. Instead, he told his boss he was was moving, that he wanted to work from Chicago, *and* that he wanted a huge amount more money--he figured they would say no but instead they let him have it all and gave him a spot in a chicago office of the same company that only has sales staff (he is a programmer in a completely different business line so it is basically an office he can use for resources if he wishes).
     
  6. greekgeek

    greekgeek Senior member

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    I'm proud to have acted like a professional and been treated like one. I get the distinct feeling that someone in this thread gave notice and was promptly walked out of building...but I'm sure it was a top-notch outfit.

    Great outcome for you! One day I will share my horror story with the board, [​IMG]
     
  7. Joenobody0

    Joenobody0 Senior member

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    I'm proud to have acted like a professional and been treated like one. I get the distinct feeling that someone in this thread gave notice and was promptly walked out of building...but I'm sure it was a top-notch outfit.

    I gave 6 months notice at my current job. I wasn't fired, but I sure did get every shit assignment in the company. I wouldn't do it again.

    Today is my last day!
     
  8. Joffrey

    Joffrey Senior member

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    I will be leaving my position in a couple of months. I would like to give my employer ample time to replace me, but I also know that they're desperately trying to cut salary. I'm afraid that if I give too much notice, they may just ask me to leave, and have one of my subordinates do my job while they search for a cheaper replacement. Advice?

    Give two weeks. The office will manage without you. If they need more time they will ask and you can give say an additional two weeks. But really, that's not likely to happen.

    Some offices/employers/supervisors are great and you will know the situations that allow for a month plus transition period. Where they know you're leaving, but you give them a little more time to prepare for your exit. By your description this isn't it. I wouldn't lose sleep offering two weeks. IF they laid you off, how much time would they give you to get on your feet before they showed you the door?
     
  9. jimmyfingers

    jimmyfingers Senior member

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    Nice to hear both sides came to a professional decision.

    As an employee, its best to look over company policy and contracts you might have signed when you first started. Many people forget about this due to being with a company for quite a few years and end up screwing themselves.

    Also check into your states laws. In my state, unemployment is based on the reason you were fired.
    If your boss cuts your stealing, your not getting unemployment.

    I never tried to 'predict' what my boss would do no matter what my relationship was with him. The boss usually has bosses that force there hand into how to handle the situation.

    Of course, plenty of variables in all of this that need to be touched upon.

    It is good practice for everyone to brush up on contracts, company policies, state laws, etc. since you never know when a life changing event might cause a move.
     

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