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General Bike Thread (Desiderata, questions, porn)

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by kronik, Apr 30, 2009.

  1. Fang66

    Fang66 Senior member

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    Fun directly ahead.

    Deets please
     
  2. otc

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    Looks like pretty tight clearance, at least on the front.
     
  3. dron

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    ^^ + ^^^
    on one pompetamine.
    8,602g fixed gear disc cross bike. currently with cobble cross tyres.
    aa-and it's done! :
    [​IMG]
     
  4. Fang66

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    Sweet
     
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    nice
     
  6. Cantabrigian

    Cantabrigian Senior member

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    Looking for recommendations for a urban / commuting / hybrid bike?

    I'll mostly take it the 10 miles to / from work with a few 20 - 30mi rides on the weekends.

    I think flat handle bars are the way to go (at least at this point) as I'm very afraid of hitting something and riding racing style hurts my neck.

    A friend at work almost has me convinced that hydrolic / disc brakes are the way to go in a place where it often rains - but are they worth it?

    Budget is around 500 GBP / 750 USD.

    Please assume a fairly n00bish level of knowledge...

    Thanks.
     
  7. Cantabrigian

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    Should have mentioned - one specific rec I got that looks pretty good is the Whyte Portabello.

    If anyone happens to have any thoughts on that one.
     
  8. otc

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    No specific recomendations from me, but I question your insistence on flat bars.

    A bike with road bars and a more upright seating position, won't be any less comfortable than flat bars. Most people spend 90% of the time riding on the hoods which is actually much more natural and comfortable than twisting your hands to grab some flat bars. More hand positions are a better option than limiting yourself to just one.

    No need for hydraulic/disc brakes, although nothing wrong with disc (hydraulic is bad if you don't want to deal with brake fluid on a bicycle). A decent set of regular cable pull rim-brakes should have more than enough stopping power when set up right. If they are frequently wet, you can get a little more wet-stopping power if you switch to the salmon colored pads (although I hear they have started making the same compound available in black if you are about that sort of thing).
     
  9. LawrenceMD

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    look for the most inexpensive cyclocross bike with disc brakes. the thing with flat bars is that they are often wider compared to road "drops" handlebars. So you'll actually be able to slip in and out of city traffic easier riding with narrower road drops compared to the wider hybrid/MTB flat bars. Riding on the brake hoods and flats is equivalent to riding with flat bars on a hybrid/MTB.

    10miles through london actually sounds like a pretty long tough stressful commute. commuting 10miles through NYC (from brooklyn to the upper west side for me takes about 1hr 10min one way). if the commute is flat you might even consider a inexpensive single speed bike to simplify things (less things to break, less chance of it getting stolen) ect. you also have to consider getting a good lock (which can cost over $100 and you still need a accessory cable to lock up the front wheel/seat/ect).

    disc brakes are great, but V-brakes can be just as powerful and cheaper/simpler/lighter.

    here's my Redline Metro Classic. and in full commuter mode. . It runs about $1000 stock and they have a version called the metro sport that you can find for under $800 (with lesser specs but still the same set up disc braked cyclocrossed commuter).
     
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  10. Cantabrigian

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    That's interesting.

    My last (very cheap) bike had drop bars and I was either my neck was sore or I was living in fear that without my fingers right by the brakes I wouldn't reach them in time if I ever needed - and people will just dart out into the street...

    [n00b]
    When you say a more upright seating position - is that something you can change on nearly any bike or would you look specifically for a bike with that sort of position?
    [/n00b]

    THanks again
     
  11. LawrenceMD

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    also sign up for bikeforums and go to this sub forum specifically: http://www.bikeforums.net/forumdisplay.php/20-Commuting

    everyone there is really nice and helpful. this specific thread will give you an idea of what people actually use for commuting http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/49471-Commuter-Bicycle-Pics/page436

    go ahead and start a new thread there with the same questions... there are a lot of UK/Euro posters there as well who are often well ahead of the curve of trends (like the above poster with his drop bar single speed disc commuter).
     
  12. Cantabrigian

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    I guess I really should re-think that. I tried some flat bar bikes last weekend but whenever I get a chance, I'll try some nice road bar ones.

    How do cyclocross bikes differ from road bikes? Do they have shocks? Larger tires?



    I'd never ever ever bike to work in NY.

    London has made a huge effort to get everyone biking - from the Boris bikes everywhere to the bike 'superhighways' they're making in the suburbs.

    I'll mostly be going along the water and at odd times so it'll be pretty civilized apart from the variability of the weather.

    Our office has a bike room so I'm not sure I'll even need a lock. Lots of guys have really nice - or at least really expensive bikes and don't bother to lock them so I figure I'll be fine.

    If theft isn't so much of an issue, would you still recommend a single speed
    Dumb question - that's the same as fixie, right?



    That's a really cool looking bike. Like the color a lot.

    Don't think I'll manage to find redline over here though...
     
  13. LawrenceMD

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    cyclocross bikes are basically road bikes with a bit more upright position and can accommodate larger tires for off road riding. larger tires = less tire pressure needed and a more comfortable ride on the road.

    NYC actually has a lot of bike infrastructure these days (too much for the some of the natives) I can do that 10mile commute on 95% bike lanes/shared lanes through the city. but oddly once you get used to riding in the city you end up finding that its sometimes easier/quicker to ride in the streets with the traffic (which is still going below 30mph anyway).

    single speed just means only having one speed. a fixie is a fixed gear bike where the pedals will turn no matter what.

    if you have a dedicated bike room at work then that means you can invest in a nice bike! seems like your co-workers already have, why not ask them what they ride - they'll be a super valuable resource of info. but you still have to think about locking your bike outside because you never know when you'll stop for errands on the way to/from work. this is a huge factor when it comes to expensive saddles, wheels, accessories like disk brakes/handlebars/ect which can still be stolen from the bike when locked up outside.

    I realize that my redline might not be available in the UK, but the trend of disc braked, drop bar commuters is in full force now, so I'm sure there are lots of Euro brands available with similar specs. In fact I remember a guy posting in bike forums that had a nice BMC that was impressive: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthrea...cycle-Pics?p=14739908&viewfull=1#post14739908
     
  14. otc

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    When you ride on the brake hoods, it looks like this:
    [​IMG]
    Your body is higher up, your hand stance is further form the axis of rotation (so the bike won't feel hard to control like if you grab the bars close together near the stem), and your hands are already on the breaks so there is no fear of the time it might take to reach them.

    The fit can (and should) be adjusted on any bike to some extent. A different stem, a setback seat post, different shaped bars--all of these things can be changed when you buy a bike to make it fit you. However, most of that is to make the bike fit you for its intended purpose.
    If you buy a racing specific bike, its going to be designed to have you leaned way forward and bending your neck back. A bike with a little more relaxed geometry will have you sitting more upright and not be as squirrely when it comes to turning.

    So while you could try to comfort up a racing machine by raising the handlebars and stuff like that, your best bet is to buy a bike with a shape designed to match the kind of riding you want to do, and then just tweaking the fit for your body.
     
  15. Cantabrigian

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    Great stuff - thanks guys.
     
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    That second one looks slick.
     
  18. Fang66

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    + 1 on all the advice.


    Drop bars, rim brakes (especially on your budget) or cable pull disks, and Wiggle (I've bought plenty of stuff from them always fast delivery no hassles) There are also several other online shops that I've bought from that are good. Chainreactioncycles is one that comes to mind. Join bikeforums a font of information.

    I know a cyclocross bike has been recommended above, that is a good suggestion, but specifically the things I'd look for are;

    Clearance and braze-ons for fenders (mudguards).

    Clearance for at least 32 mm tires, these are usually designated 700 x 32 C on the tire. I don't think you need thicker than that for city riding. Get slick tires if possible, tread on road bike tires is pointless and decreases grip.

    Braze-ons so you can attach racks, it is possible to attach them without braze-ons but it is a hassle.
     
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  19. Cantabrigian

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    You guys have me convinced on the drop bars / cyclecross.

    Cycle Scheme starts up again in May for my company (for anyone in the UK, it's an awesome deal - you basically buy the bike in installments from your company using pre-tax earnings so you save 30+% and get financing for free) so I'll likely pull the trigger then.

    I guess now it's just a question of trying a few different bikes to see how they feel.

    Seems like disc brakes would be nice but less important than the geometry.

    Really appreciate the help, fellas.
     
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    +1

    I like that paint scheme so much better than on mine (the '04)
     

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