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General Bike Thread (Desiderata, questions, porn)

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by kronik, Apr 30, 2009.

  1. vm1336

    vm1336 Well-Known Member

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    I hope that wasn't the cyclingnews drawing. I was hoping to win that one :D
     
  2. LawrenceMD

    LawrenceMD Senior member

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    ^I remember wanting a GT Pro Freestyle Tour Team so badly as an 8 year old (in 1988).... Then they had one for raffle at six flags california the day we went there. I made my parents wait until near closing for the raffle draw... of course I lost and had my heart broken.

    I found another grail bike, thats going to be a nice bike project for me and an xmas present for the wife:

    1992 Bridgestone XO-1.

    Its the very first version and a totally weird bike at that. It has 26" (mountain bike size) wheels, on a road geometry frame, with all the braze ons for racks and fenders, and the super weirdo Mustache bars. This version is different from the more popular later version which had cantilever brakes and an orange paint job because it actually has normal caliper road brakes on it (more weirdness).

    Fortunately it can fit 650c wheels (which are about a 1cm larger than the 26") so I have options for my wife when she wants a proper road bike with light wheels and thin tires. But there is clearance for large mountain bike tires too. This way it can be a "do anything" bike trails, road, commuter with a rack.

    I'm just happy that I found a normal looking bike that fits her easily (since its a 48cm frame with 26" wheels my wife is a hair under 5'4"). They even have a 42cm version of this bike that has a sloping top tube (perfect for shorter than 5'2" people probably).

    http://roomwithavu.blogs.com/photos/bikes/xo1.html

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    Since the bike will be for my wife I had to ditch the mustache bars and build it up as a normal drop bar bike. But I'll be putting on SRAM Rival. The wheels are actually pretty light considering they are 32 spoked and from 1992 (1800g for the set). Im psyched that I found old silver Sram Rival stuff for it:

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  3. vm1336

    vm1336 Well-Known Member

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    That is sweet! Did you find it in another Amish barn?

    I have a 54cm Surly LHT that has 26" wheels. I'm running some Schwalbe Marathon's that are great for mixed surfaces (gravel, dirt, road). If you go with 650's you should look at the tire selection at Rivendell Bikes.
     
  4. LawrenceMD

    LawrenceMD Senior member

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    ^its funny you mention the LHT bikes, because the 26" versions are so similar in execution - its long been mentioned in other bike forums how Surly must've used the XO-1 as inspiration.

    But it was pointed out that the geometry of the LHT is pretty relaxed and comfortable. While the XO-1's were very road bike like with 26" wheels. I personally don't see much of a difference.

    the LHT are sweet bikes. I love the 26" versions. What I don't get is why more people don't put V-brakes on theirs with the influx of drop bar V-brake compatible levers - also since it seems like the majority of LHT owners still run bar end shifters/down tube shifters.

    its seems like there should be a bigger market that would force the big three component companies to make a brifter/sti thats V-brake compatible.

    There is this from RetroShift.com:

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    such a elegantly simple solution in an ugly package though... I'm not going to lie I was thinking of doing a LHT built with v-brakes and RetroShift solutions.
     
  5. otc

    otc Senior member

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    Just use mini-v's...they work fine for stopping with STI levers although they lack modulation (but so do most v brakes). They use them all the time on CX bikes.

    I'll have a set of Pauls mini-v's soon and I bet those will work even better than the tektro/TRP versions.

    I just doubt that it will ever happen for long-pull STI levers...disc brakes are UCI legal in cross now so any further development is going to be in that direction (possibly hydraulic STIs)

    Should look like this (although my Wound-Up is supposed to come logoless):
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  6. LawrenceMD

    LawrenceMD Senior member

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    ^ I want the endo producing POWER of full sized V-Brakes!

    I remember being dumbfounded at how powerful (albeit straight locking of the wheel power) V-Brakes are even in cheap entry level hybrid bikes. Its the fact that they look so much like cantilevers that throws me off.

    The V-Brake on a LHT or 93 Bridgestone XO-1 build is moot for me though... i've already got a disc brake commuter that I posted a while back. The road BB7's aren't as stop on a hair strong as the regular mountain versions but their about 90% as good which is more than enough.

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    ^now that I think about it... Redline was obviously copying the old 1993 Orange XO-1. Only its with 700c wheels. I guess I could just put in huge 26" MTB disc wheels on it for winter riding though.
     
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  7. Fang66

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    Very decent tool, but it must have a sad from its own ugliness when in the same corral as your RB-1.
     
  8. rdawson808

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    Ooh, unfair. I think that's a gorgeous bike.
     
  9. dron

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    I like it too. What are the wheels/tyres? I'm building something similar, but with a fixed gear.
     
  10. Fang66

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    Yes, but it's like comparing the pretty girl you sat next to in grade 12 English class to Cindy Crawford. (Insert your own 80s super model).
     
  11. LawrenceMD

    LawrenceMD Senior member

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    Finished my wife's xmas present:

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    if you look at the chainring you'll notice that the chainrings are huge and the seat tube to wheel space is huge also... its weirdly out of proportion .... its not... this is a bike based on 26" wheels. Made in 1992 this is the precursor to the rivendell atlantis, and other bikes like the surly long haul trucker.

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    I ditched the original mustache bars (my wife wouldn't of like them anyway) and put on a modern SRAM Rival Groupset. There is clearance for mountain bike tires too if you want to go off road.

    The wife is 5'4" and can ride this with adequate top tube clearance as well as no toe overlap.
     
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  12. NORE

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    Nice work on the build. That thing's seriously got some limousine geometry. :)
     
  13. LawrenceMD

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    actually it doesn't... its just based on 26" wheels... total weirdo dimensions but its very quick and zippy... my wife wanted a regular looking traditional steel bike that fits her and the 700c options have massive toe overlap and fit issues at 50cm and below sizes... I'm a vintage bridgestone bike groupie so when I found one of these frames in a size 48cm I had a feeling that it would work out.

    The real pain is finding new wheels for this bike. 650c wheels work but only have thin 23c road tires available, and modern 26" wheels are all mountain bike wheels with 135mm rear spacing.
     
  14. otc

    otc Senior member

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    For a bike like that, why on earth wouldn't you be using hand built wheels? In that case, should be no problem to lace a narrow 26" rim to a classic looking road hub. Velocity makes a lot of models in the 26" size (650b/c as well) and something like the AeroHeat or the Synergy (with eyelets and an off-center rear!) would be great if you want to run some slightly larger tires.
     
  15. NORE

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    Gotcha. I'm more into stuff like this:

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  16. LawrenceMD

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    ^nice! I'm already on the prowl for a simple Bridgestone Track frame for a single speed/maybe fixie for the winter.... since riding fixies on icy roads is what the old pros did back in the day right? :smarmy:

    then again i live in fixie country... where bushwick craigslist listing inflated pricing often times gives me the lolz...


    yeah its a nice frame/bike but I actually found it for pretty cheap and I was working within a self imposed budget. I almost had a modern 105 hubs with the 10speed freehub laced onto some 26" rims, but I didn't want to let the old wheels go -they are surprisingly light at 1800g w/ rim strips - for 32spoked wheels from the early 1990's. So i just had a new 8/9/10 speed free hub swapped onto the old wheels and then re-dished the wheel. It was a low-fi and cheaper solution.

    It shouldn't be a problem finding cheap MTB wheels (especially on craigslist), but I don't want to re-space the rear to fit a 135mm MTB wheel. Maybe just go with a spare set of 650c wheels for fast road riding, then use the originals with thicker off road friendly wheels.
     
  17. otc

    otc Senior member

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    Oh, didn't realize keeping the original wheels and changing the freehub was an option. That seems totally fine.

    I also wouldn't want to bend the frame to fit 135 (although honestly you could probably stuff one in there without cold setting the frame if it is already at 130). Some MTB hubs will fit 130 spacing if you just swap out the spacers but if you need to get down to 126, then it might be a problem.

    Changing the brake height might be annoying with two slightly different wheelsets--although there aren't a ton of skinny tires available in 26" that I can see. You can get a 26x1.1 Durano and there are a couple 26x1.0 options though...so a narrow rimmed 26" might work well as a second wheelset.
     
  18. LawrenceMD

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    the only thing not rival on this build is the brakes. I went with tektro 539 which have generous spacing for a wider tire and even fenders:

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    I was looking at those 1.1 duranos then found these Micheline Wild Run'r 1.1 (they also havea 1.4). They are 28c tires but look so much thinner due to the wider rims. They measure a true 28mm wide though. The michelins are a lot lighter and can be found for cheaper than the duranos as well:

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    so as you can see there's still a lot of space to work with even with 28c tires installed... maybe I can put in some 35c MTB/xcross tires.. I'll keep these on for now as its adequate for about 90% of what my wife will be riding anyway..
     
  19. NORE

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    A saw a couple Bridgestone framesets on ebay last night but you'd be hard pressed to find one south of $800 :eek:

    I used to troll the LFGSS site's ebay deals thread for vintage framesets and found a few. Also, those Keirin sellers usually have some mostly way too small for me (I'm 6'4")

    Speaking of hipsters, here's a shot of my saddle, blued from riding in raw denim (he he he he)

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    Also, one of the best things I ever did was pick up some elkhide bar wrap and lace it myself. Great idea for your wife's rig and it's super luxe and comfy.

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    velo-orange sells it relatively inexpensively.
     
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  20. LawrenceMD

    LawrenceMD Senior member

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    I check out the eBay/Craigslist offerings daily. Its a really tough segment/brand to get good deals on. If I do make a fixie/singlespeed it'll be for purely utilitarian purposes of puttering around the neighborhood to to errands in so maybe an uber cheap build. I know this comes off as a humblebrag... but I'm getting tired of actually having to securely lock up my bikes (saddle wheels and all) when riding around casually. Lugging around a kryptonite NY fuggetaboutit lock and a cable kind of defeats the convenience of riding a bike in this city. But these builds are my fucking beloved babies and I'd be heartbroken if stolen. Hell I get pissed about the potential of them getting scratched from the process of locking them up.

    The most fun I have on a bike in the city is when its just a whole day of riding with my wife/friends and you don't need to bring a lock...

    wow at 6'4" you're actually lucky when it comes to getting bike deals. big frames usually go for cheap...conversely the smaller the frame the better the possibility of making a lot of money on eBay/craigslist. I found an old waterford built Schwin Paramount in a tiny size when I was vacationing in Maine a year ago and then just tuned it up... I posted it on craigslist here at 2am and my phone flooded with calls with in minutes. I got emails demanding to be 1st in line if sale doesnt go through for weeks after.
     

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