General Bike Thread (Desiderata, questions, porn)

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  1. shibbel

    shibbel Senior member

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    huh?
    It's a 2011. I was really hoping to avoid buying two bikes. When shopping for a bike, I was basically looking for the following:

    1. Extremely light
    2. Mainly a road bike, but can be taken on bike trails with crushed stone
    3. Best components out there (brakes, tires, saddle, etc)- I don't want to upgrade everything later on

    What other bikes should I be looking at?
     
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    But they're not simply normal flat bars; they're swoopy, really wide, shaped bars with these "aero" extensions stuck on the front...very strange, imo. (Unless they have changed them; I can't tell from the pic posted above.) [​IMG] (Internet photo; not mine.)
    Thanks for the photo and explanation. I was intrigued by this bike so I did some reading. Seems high for the purpose and component mix.
     
  3. acidboy

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    spent the weekend mountaining biking some trails for the first time - had an absolute blast. much more enjoyable than the road cycling im used to

    i fell of quite a few times - do you mountain bikers use clip in pedeals for hardish single track? clips are obviously a great help going up hill but were the cause of me topling over a few times because i couldnt get my foot out quick enough.

    think i will buy a second set of pedals for the more tricky trails and keep the clip pedals for the more gruelling stuff.


    clip ins definitely take getting used to. fell off quite a number of times too back then but after a while it becomes so natural and I can't imagine using flat pedals again. shimano sells 'multi-release' cleats that can be unclipped in a sudden upward jerk just in case something happens, and as mentioned, you can adjust the tension on most pedals.

    It's a 2011. I was really hoping to avoid buying two bikes. When shopping for a bike, I was basically looking for the following:

    1. Extremely light
    2. Mainly a road bike, but can be taken on bike trails with crushed stone
    3. Best components out there (brakes, tires, saddle, etc)- I don't want to upgrade everything later on

    What other bikes should I be looking at?


    why not get a cx bike?
     
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    clip ins definitely take getting used to. fell off quite a number of times too back then but after a while it becomes so natural and I can't imagine using flat pedals again. shimano sells 'multi-release' cleats that can be unclipped in a sudden upward jerk just in case something happens, and as mentioned, you can adjust the tension on most pedals.
    I agree, however, one of the criticisms is the unpredictability of the multi release aspect of the Shimano sm-sh56....It is just a thought, but, that could lead to some problems.
    Exactly.....
     
  5. venessian

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    I have a 2009 7.6 and I like it. But I only paid something like 900 for mine (or less). I would not pay 2500 for one of these. You could buy two nice bikes for that money. And the two year warranty is basically useless--I doubt anything will go wrong with the bike for 5+ years.
    Agree.
    What I like: mounts for a rear rack, fenders, etc. Nice nimble ride. What I don't like: this weird "clix" drop-out on the front fork and special quick release skewer. I'm not sure why they thought this was better than a standard quick release. And my frame only has mounts for one water bottle (I think because of the small size of the frame; but my last mt. bike was as small and had two). And, for the record, mine has pretty standard flat bars on it.
    I have heard the ride is pretty good; I doubt it is better than its competitors though, really. The weird "clix" thing because it's Trek? They love to do that stuff. It's infuriating. Yes, I bet only 1 bottle mount because the tt drop is so extreme = no room for 2. Standard flat bars would be much better.
    But my advice is to skip that ride. b
    I agree completely. It's neither here nor there.
    It's a 2011. I was really hoping to avoid buying two bikes. When shopping for a bike, I was basically looking for the following: 1. Extremely light 2. Mainly a road bike, but can be taken on bike trails with crushed stone 3. Best components out there (brakes, tires, saddle, etc)- I don't want to upgrade everything later on What other bikes should I be looking at?
    1. Why extremely light? What's driving that? 2. A C-X (cyclo-cross) or "cross-muter" bike are better options for that purpose. 3. The spec on the 7.9FX (Ultegra + 105) is OK, but hardly "the best out there", and not worth the price. The bike is over-priced. The brakes are part of a good group. The tires...will need replacing every so often no matter how good they are. So will break pads, cassettes and chains a bit less often.... The saddle? The best one out there is the one that fits YOU, period. Don't be swayed by hype. In "hybrid" look at Cannondale, Specialized, etc., but definitely look at C-X bikes as well. Also, you're in Milwaukee: Trek country for sure, but also Waterford/Gunnar/Milwaukee (I think that's Ben's Bikes' brand, a shop in your town).
    Thanks for the photo and explanation. I was intrigued by this bike so I did some reading. Seems high for the purpose and component mix.
    High, strangely shaped, can't be cut down, very restrictive hand placement, promotes either (and only) a very upright position or some weird "aero"position, and I bet it adds $$$ to the price. It's stupid. EDIT: I think you meant the bike price is high, not the bar placement. Yes, that too.
    clip ins definitely take getting used to. fell off quite a number of times too back then but after a while it becomes so natural and I can't imagine using flat pedals again. shimano sells 'multi-release' cleats that can be unclipped in a sudden upward jerk just in case something happens, and as mentioned, you can adjust the tension on most pedals.
    This. It takes just some practice, maybe tension adjustment (but don't go too loose!!!). I don't know abou those multi-tension pedals though. The ATAC rec is a good one. Or Speedplay.
    why not get a cx bike?
    Exactly.
     
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    I agree, however, one of the criticisms is the unpredictability of the multi release aspect of the Shimano sm-sh56....It is just a thought, but, that could lead to some problems.

    one of my shoes have the sm-sh56 and I've never encountered any problems before except for the time someone borrowed my hardtail and adjusted the tension of the pedals without letting me know. [​IMG]


    High, strangely shaped, can't be cut down, very restrictive hand placement, promotes either (and only) a very upright position or some weird "aero"position, and I bet it adds $$$ to the price. It's stupid.

    those bars kinda remind me of titec's j-bars that I've seen some single speeders use

    [​IMG]


    Exactly.....

    Agree.

    Exactly.


    man I was hanging out in a bike shop that happens to be this country's seven distributors... that mudhoney is [​IMG] and a [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  8. venessian

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    those bars kinda remind me of titec's j-bars that I've seen some single speeders use
    [​IMG]


    I think the shape/extensions of the Titecs or Jones H-Bars is FAR more flexible than those Trek deals.

    man I was hanging out in a bike shop that happens to be this country's seven distributors... that mudhoney is [​IMG] and a [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Oh yeah, Seven!!! Such a fine company. That Mudhoney is awesome.

    A guy I know makes some really excellent ti bikes: http://kishbike.com/.


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  9. acidboy

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    ^ yeah those kishes are as awesome.. too bad they don't have much on an international distribution if there is at all.
     
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    one of my shoes have the sm-sh56 and I've never encountered any problems before except for the time someone borrowed my hardtail and adjusted the tension of the pedals without letting me know. [​IMG]
    Among my riding buddies that has occurred, I am comfortable with the 51's and have never used the 56s. Just a word of caution.... It may never happen, it should not happen, just something to keep in mind.
     
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    ^ yeah those kishes are as awesome.. too bad they don't have much on an international distribution if there is at all.

    They are. I have 2 of them. Really excellent bikes. There is no distribution anywhere. He only sells direct, and also does ti sub-contract work for other builders. He does sell a lot to international clients, actually.
     
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    Don't buy that trek...it is way overpriced for what it is. Also, the components are mid-range and you are missing the most expensive part (the brake/shifter units) so I don't even know where that number comes from.

    As to the seven...I have seen some pretty sweet honey CX rigs. Honey is basically seven without the custom geo options (although the ones I have seen were allowed some tweaking for an extra fee...but they were made as plain framesets for a shop).
    They are some super nice bikes...
     
  13. shibbel

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    Thanks for all the advice guys- the specialized bikes look super sweet! I'm going to head out to a local dealer near me (Crank Daddies) and check out the tricross comp bike.

    I also need a trunk mount bike rack for two bikes, any suggestions? I have a 10' Lexus IS-F if that matters
     
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    Thanks for all the advice guys- the specialized bikes look super sweet! I'm going to head out to a local dealer near me (Crank Daddies) and check out the tricross comp bike. I also need a trunk mount bike rack for two bikes, any suggestions? I have a 10' Lexus IS-F if that matters
    Crank Daddy is also a Focus dealer. I suggest you check out their rides, you never know if you will find one that works for you.
     
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    When installing your own pedals, how important is it that one acutally put grease of the threads before installing? Is my only risk that i won't be able to back the pedal back out if/when I want a new one?
     

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