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Gaziano & Girling Appreciation & Shoe Appreciation Thread (including reviews, purchases, pictures)

GeoffreyB

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Mine are on the smaller side. I’d also have the option of buying the DG70 immediately without needing to do MTO, which square deco would be a MTO (but more customizable with the patina I choose).

Also a little nervous from some comments on this thread about DG70 being a noticeably tighter fit in the toe box than TG73 (only last I have).

The only G&G lasts I am familiar with are the TG73 and the Deco (round and square) lasts. All of which, I wear in the same size.
 

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Opinions on the Savile - DG70 or square deco last? Having a hard time deciding.
I have the Savile on the square deco - one of my fav pairs of G&Gs ?

Most of mine are on the square deco last, with one on MH71. I've sold all my DG70s though - they were too tight across the toe box (double Monk and oxfords).
 

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I have the Savile on the square deco - one of my fav pairs of G&Gs ?

Most of mine are on the square deco last, with one on MH71. I've sold all my DG70s though - they were too tight across the toe box (double Monk and oxfords).

Wow. How did the MH71/TG73 fit you? I only have TG73 and they fit me quite well and not tight, actually had to put a very, very thin toe pad on them to keep my foot on the heel.

The pair of DG70 Saviles I found (see photo) would get to me in a week, while a MTO pair would cost a little more (esp since I’ll do a patina) and take 10-12 weeks. I would have also preferred more burnishing on the DG70 and thinking about applying some dye around the toe and on the tongue on the monks, but never tried to dye before, so a bit nervous.

Decisions, decisions.
 

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Hi @unprocessed

I think you might find more people like the Savile in that more classic DG70 make-up as pictured, compared to the square deco.

Is it the Smoky Criollo patina you're looking at? I think it's stunning if it is - I'm not a patina guy generally, but this is subtle enough to not stand out (a good thing).

I do find the MH71 a touch looser than sq deco, but fit/feel does depend a lot on the actual shoe type (ie Oxford, Derby, etc) - the MH71 shoe I have is a (mink) suede Derwent, so it is going to feel a little looser I think.

I have a boot, oxfords and one loafer in sq deco, so a little different.

Waiting can be part of the pay-off I think, but either way it's fun having to decide - good luck!
 

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Hi @unprocessed

I think you might find more people like the Savile in that more classic DG70 make-up as pictured, compared to the square deco.

Is it the Smoky Criollo patina you're looking at? I think it's stunning if it is - I'm not a patina guy generally, but this is subtle enough to not stand out (a good thing).

I do find the MH71 a touch looser than sq deco, but fit/feel does depend a lot on the actual shoe type (ie Oxford, Derby, etc) - the MH71 shoe I have is a (mink) suede Derwent, so it is going to feel a little looser I think.

I have a boot, oxfords and one loafer in sq deco, so a little different.

Waiting can be part of the pay-off I think, but either way it's fun having to decide - good luck!

The patina is actually custom made by Medallion. I guess it was originally a different color and they completely recolored it with a light patina. I have a pair of Grendons from them with the same exact patina, which is why I’m hesitating to get the Savile for fear of redundancy. Hoping Saphir cream and wax would make the Saviles darker and more distinct if I do decide to get them, I’ve only got 5-6 shoes in my regular rotation (wear 4x a week to work).
 

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If you are doing it through Medallion and don't speak Chinese, speak to Sasha in the Shanghai store. I am sure they can help you with a unique patina if they offer the service. If they did it the first time, maybe they can do it again. And Sasha is a master at wax polish. I would gladly pay him to modify the color instead of doing it myself. Feel free to PM me if you need I can help in any way.

The patina is actually custom made by Medallion. I guess it was originally a different color and they completely recolored it with a light patina. I have a pair of Grendons from them with the same exact patina, which is why I’m hesitating to get the Savile for fear of redundancy. Hoping Saphir cream and wax would make the Saviles darker and more distinct if I do decide to get them, I’ve only got 5-6 shoes in my regular rotation (wear 4x a week to work).
 

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If you are doing it through Medallion and don't speak Chinese, speak to Sasha in the Shanghai store. I am sure they can help you with a unique patina if they offer the service. If they did it the first time, maybe they can do it again. And Sasha is a master at wax polish. I would gladly pay him to modify the color instead of doing it myself. Feel free to PM me if you need I can help in any way.
I meant to say the shoes I want already have a patina that was done by Medallion. I wonder if they would be willing to darken/burnish them up a bit - wouldn’t even require a full reset since the base color is there. Their English has been perfect, and purchased a pair of shoes from them before.
 

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I think it does not hurt asking. They might be willing to accommodate you.

I meant to say the shoes I want already have a patina that was done by Medallion. I wonder if they would be willing to darken/burnish them up a bit - wouldn’t even require a full reset since the base color is there. Their English has been perfect, and purchased a pair of shoes from them before.
 

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Anybody available to proxy for the sample sale? I'm in the US, so getting there is a no go.
 

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How do the G&G patinas hold up over time?
Fine, as long as you take care of them. I tend to polish them with less neutral than I would for non-patina shoes, as I've heard it said a factory-dyed crust or aniline leather will resist colour removal better. But as I'm not in the habit of torturing my shoes (aka stripping them with renovateur) I've never had to test that assertion. I just use a ooloured cream that is reasonably close to the patina colour and go from there.

If you check out my instagram you'll see lots of pics of my shoes, both patina and non, in the wild. I think they hold up pretty well.
 

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Fine, as long as you take care of them. I tend to polish them with less neutral than I would for non-patina shoes, as I've heard it said a factory-dyed crust or aniline leather will resist colour removal better. But as I'm not in the habit of torturing my shoes (aka stripping them with renovateur) I've never had to test that assertion. I just use a ooloured cream that is reasonably close to the patina colour and go from there.

If you check out my instagram you'll see lots of pics of my shoes, both patina and non, in the wild. I think they hold up pretty well.

Thanks. Just order a pair with the Margaux patina. Was planning on just using Bick 4 with the hope it wouldn’t alter the patina over time, which I think even the neutral Saphir cream could do.
 

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