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Gaziano & Girling Appreciation & Shoe Appreciation Thread (including reviews, purchases, pictures, e

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by luk-cha, Apr 7, 2011.

  1. GabrielOB

    GabrielOB Well-Known Member

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    Yes, there is a surcharge to have a none Deco style made on the Deco last. These MTO's will also have the standard fiddle waist from G&G Benchmade, not the hand set Deco waist. This is because not to dilute the Deco collection
     
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    So you order multiple straps? The panerai of shoes! :laugh:
     
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    Quote:That would be around $8600 of my money, I love it when the bespoke guys go on about how for "just a bit more" than premium RTW, you could get awesomesauce bespoke. But every time I see awesomesauce bespoke shoes the price tage is SEVERAL times that of premium RTW - even when comparing offerings of the same brand. These shoes are a cool concept. I dig 'em. But if I had that kind of coin to drop on a single pair of bespoke - as opposed to an instant premium RTW rotation - I'd probably spend it on a more traditional offering.
     
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    ^^^ Yes, the airfare and travel time are a bit of a snag in the value equation.
     
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    Are bespoke shoes worth it ? Yes absolutely, but as someone who had bespoke shoes buying/making experience I offer this advice. Make sure that person who is making the shoes is also a person who will take measurement and evaluate fit of the test shoes.

    I must admit that wholecut with interchangeable straps does not appeal to me much.
     
  8. jerrybrowne

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    Most of my bespoke Cleverleys are ~$3900 USD. Not sure where these prices are coming from. Also, pair of bespoke Cleverly Croc shoes are actually cheaper than Croc Edward Greens.
     
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    The prices are coming from Justin's blog, quoting a price of GBP4500 for the bespoke G&G's.

    So RTW Cleverleys cost what - $600 - $700? So your bespoke Cleverleys are more than 5- 7 times the price? That's what I meant when I said the bespoke premium - comparing offerings from the same brand - are not just a bit more $$ but several times the RTW $$.
     
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    Well, I never claimed that bespoke is "just a bit more" than RTW. That must be coming from another bespoker.

    I just wanted to clear up misconceptions about pricing. Also, a better comparison here would be RTW Anthony Cleverleys vs. bespoke Cleverleys rather than mainline Cleverley vs. bespoke. In that case the cost is ~$1900 vs $3900.

    Let's face it. Bespoke is not cheap be it shoes, suits, shirts underwear, whatever. Some people think it's worth it, some don't. I just don't get the constant references to bespoke shoe buyers as elitists.
     
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    Isham is greater than hove. I maybe in on the kudu.
     
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    I never said that you did. And I have no idea to whom you are referring when you claim that bespoke wearers are described as elitist.

    You may choose your points of comparison as you like. I am comparing Cleverley RTW to Cleverley bespoke. GG RTW to GG bespoke.

    I have no misconceptions about pricing. I know what RTW GGs cost. And unless you are saying that Justin's quoted price on the bespoke GGs is wrong, the numbers speak for themselves however you might like to spin them.

    My only point was the significant price differential between bespoke and RTW of the same brand, compared with suggestions I have repeatedly read that if you are buying premium RTW shoes, the jump to bespoke isn't that great. Yes, some will find value in bespoke footwear and others won't. I respect both points of view. Do you?
     
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    Look, I'm not going to get into some flame war with you. I have better things to do with my time. Of course I respect both points of view and I can confidently say that I have purchased many many more RTW shoes than bespoke.
     
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    What flame war? You are quoting my posts denying making statements which I have never attributed to you, while simultaneously complaining of being branded an elitist (which term I have never used to describe you or bespoke wearers in general).

    I don't know where any of that is coming from.
     
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    Does GG offer boot trees?
     
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    Yes if you get Bespoke G&G
     
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    I noticed in your pic of the Arran, it looks like boot trees were being used. I kind of hoped that general mto's would allow for this option.
     
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    Yes back in old days G&G offered 3-piece boot trees for RTW models. These were discontinued a few years ago.
     
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    Both of these are correct.

    Long gone are the days of the legendary 3 piece boot tree for your MTO order. Now they have also taken the mahagony finish option away as well. Not a necessary step I suppose, but I liked it.

    Further more, GG will consolidate all tree toe shapes to MH71 last going forward (so I was told). If GG says all lasts are virtually the same, except for the toe, I suppose I'm ok with this as well.

    Considering GG is one of the last RTW/MTO makers that still bothers to make lasted trees, maybe some credit is due on my part. As long as they keep making my trees at my 10.5 G width size, I suppose I'll keep paying the considerable amount they charge for them...
     
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