Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by luk-cha, Apr 7, 2011.
28.6 cm in length, 10 cm diagonally from the two widest points. for MH71 6.5E
fantastic shoes, wurger. i want to topy my shoes, but i cant get myself to cover the fiddle back beauty.
Not to worry, topy only covers the front of me sole, plenty of leather left on the waist to show fiddle back.
a decent compromise. i have considered putting topy on my GGs after the soles get worn a bit and looked scratched up anyways. i just might some day.
Stitchy - for your consideration (I only have these pics handy of my Corthays but I did the same with my G&Gs):
1. First, a pic of what the Corthay soles look like with Vibram installed across most of the sole. I leave part of the waist bare, since it doesn't make contact with the pavement anyway in most instances. I also don't feel the need to pay extra to put some on the sole, since I have taps installed for that.
This pair of Corthay "Casanovas" (that's what they are called nowadays) is about a year old and I've worn them about once every two weeks, walking 1.5 miles per wear in the rough streets of NYC. I had the taps replaced once, and the Vibram is still pretty much intact.
2. You might be wondering - eh, those look like horse shoes from the bottom. But you really can't see them.
3. Other angle:
i have done that in the past with shoes of mine, but never with my GGs, carminas or CJs. i have no one here to do it, so i would have to send them away, probably b nelson. a dozen pairs at once is costly and will leave me with no shoes. i will probably just do it over time as the shoes need to be resoled. once they need work anyways, ill have them redone with topy.
To further our prior discussion on sizing let me add the following points:
By way of background, I am a US 11.5D sizing in nearly every shoe I've tried except certain athletic shoes. I take a a 10.5E (UK) in John Lobbs.
My first G&G purchase was a pair of Oakhams in an MH71 last. These were ordered in June in a 10.5E and fit very nicely. No real issues at all.
In the last sale I purchased 2 new pair, both in a 10.5E. One was a Hove on the DG70 last and the other was the Westminster on the TG73 last. I could tell from the beginning that both were on the tight side, but felt they would probably be ok.
I've worn both a few times now. The Hove will be fine. With a bit of wear they have broken in well. The Westminsters on the other hand just aren't going to work for me. Both pair are a bit tight on the out step, but the Westminsters are much more so. Really wish now I'd tried both in a size 11. I believe my next order will be a size 11, a half size down from my US size.
That said, the TG73 last seems to fit me much tighter in the outstep and the toe box than either of the other two lasts.
Bot EG and G&G recommend sizing down by a half from your US size and it is good advice.
I find G&G and EG runs half a size smaller than standard UK sizes like Loake, C&J, AS, Trickers.
True TO size for me against C&J Hand-grade last 337s
i go one full size down from my US size. i think it really depends on the exact size of your foot.
I think it's more width dependent. I can go down full size if it were wider, so I am always down half size (all from US size)
Stitch - If you can get down to DC, Sky Valet in Georgetown can do it for you. They've put topys on my EGs with no problem.
probably true. the length differential on a half size is pretty negligible.
that is good info, thanks. i rarely get down there for personal time, so i think id have to mail them either way. but good info to have. if i can make it there, id defo do that.
I asked about the fit differences between the MH71 last and the TG73 last about a week ago here, and since then decided to pull the trigger on a pair of Mayfair double monks from Leatherfoot. The shoes arrived and for me, the fit is very similar to the MH71. The toe-box does feel slightly lower, but it feels OK for me. I think the toe box also might be a smidge narrower, but it's not tight so no issues there. So I guess for my feet the TG73 works in the same size as MH71.
It seems that the Mayfairs are not all that popular around here, but I kept going back to these when looking for my next pair of G&G's. It would have been nice if these had the fiddleback waist, but in-person, I really like how the double soles look on them, so I think it worked out pretty well for me.
A few quick pics:
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