Gaziano & Girling Appreciation & Shoe Appreciation Thread (including reviews, purchases, pictures, e

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by luk-cha, Apr 7, 2011.

  1. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    i would never regret my three pair of goyserer stitched shoes. actually, they are "single" in the sense of that goiser is a double stitch per se.

    i never liked triple or more rows. especially, when they are wonky in the unfortunate case of luk-cha.

    i used three different makers and all did a formidable job in keeping it discreet and also distinctive in the same event.

    dinks are of poor quality. at least the ones in the shoe shop in my town. all of their displayed models look cheap and not up to the standards of a handmade product. i doubt that they have the same level of craftmanship than e.g. vass.
     


  2. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    this is a very good reflex.

    also the schnitzel and sacher torte. enjoy
     


  3. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    interesting. i didnt know you could just yank those off. what exactly is underneath? pics?
     


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    Should be nothing but the footbed. I have yet to run into a heel pad that wasn't removable.

    Those Norvagese welt shoes look fucking awful. Especially that tan contrast one.
     


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    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    yes, but are they not glued or even stitched down? doesnt that make a mess of the heel area, and possibly make it uncomfortable to walk on? also, i find the pad, especially on my better shoes, to add a great deal of comfort to the shoe, which is extra important if you are wearing the shoes all day.
     


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    Rambo be correct but I give Stitch what he like:

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  7. Son Of Saphir

    Son Of Saphir Senior member

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    Why craftsmanship cheap?
    How is calf they use?

    Dink have good shell,
    dink have good construction craftsmanship.
    Patterns is very basic,
    not good traditional pattern like vass.

    Me get off topic,
    me sorry.
     


  8. kungapa

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    this looks... strangely sexual
     


  9. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    calf cheap

    craftmanship half assed and shoddy.

    why. i dunno.
     
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  10. hendrix

    hendrix Ill-proportioned

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    I agree in many contexts, but i would also refer you to a post you yourself made a while ago.


    Personally I find the goyser and bentivegna constructions to be very attractive from photos when done subtly on a casual shoe. Or even ostentatiously.

    As long as the proportions match up and the stitching is even and the styling is right, many things can work.

    I love those dinkelackers.
     


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    I suppose these goyser and bentivegna constructions arouse the same emotional reactions as tattoos, some people see them as decoration other as mutilation. I can only ever warm to them on work boots myself
     


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    Different strokes for different folks...better than some boring pair of EGs for instance. You need to reach out to a different world methinks FWIW
     
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    This is a G & G thread so I suspect that the more refined aesthetic is appropriate here.
     


  14. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    I understand your reservations..and if you like the shoes, so be it. But if you think about it, all the examples I offered in the earlier post are nuanced. Are subtle. There is no contradiction.

    To fold the edge...like along the topline rather than expose the raw edge of the leather, is not, strictly speaking, functional--the very same shoe could be made without folding. But it is a refinement. An almost critical one in high end footwear.

    Similarly broguing and gimping--the gimping finishes the edge so that the the eye is not confounded by a crudely cut edge. Broguing adds a visual distraction that is marginally attractive. That said, a full brogued shoe would not be considered especially "elegant" or refined by most people.

    Pricking up of the welt had a real purpose in another age when leathers were of a different temper. It separated and defined the stitches. Pricking up of the welt still does that, but a shoe could very well be made without pricking up....or more likely just by "fudging" the welt.

    But all these techniques are more or less subtle in their effects. Subdued, if you will. They do not draw your eye. You have to look for them. They draw the observant viewer in. They do not scream for attention and make you see them to the exclusion of the shoe itself...as a whole, as a "gestalt," if you like.

    Consider how goiser is done...it is comprised of two threads--one closes the inseam, the other is just "woven" in for no apparent reason other than ornamentation. In a sense, it's masquerading as something it's not simply because it's not any more rugged than one thread. It's really just macrame on shoes.

    Having said all that, there's a time and a place for even ugly shoes. But I wouldn't call them "stylish."
     
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  15. Son Of Saphir

    Son Of Saphir Senior member

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