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  1. globetrotter

    globetrotter Senior member

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    how common is it for fur wearers in NYC to get hit with paint? my wife has a very nice fur and I really don't want to take a chance of getting it destroyed by some crazy granolas. anybody know anything about it?
     


  2. DandySF

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    I just spent several days in NYC and admired the many women in their fur coats. It didn't seem that their coats were at risk, which somewhat surprised me. In San Francisco it would be a bit hard to wear fur without hearing some snipes. I think paint would only be an issue if a fur-clad wearer passed through an organized anti-fur demonstration.
     


  3. faustian bargain

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    this may or may not be helpful, as i don't know anything about the situation in new york, but in san francisco the only instances i know of this happening are at protests staged in front of big stores like nieman marcus. you can see them a block away, so you just avoid that corner if you're wearing fur (or even leather, possibly).

    i would not even think of wearing fur in downtown berkeley.

    /andrew - doesn't actually have any fur (except for my chest...)
     


  4. stache

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    PETA is dead in the water here in NY. Wear as much fur as you like.
     


  5. Mark Seitelman

    Mark Seitelman Senior member

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    I have not heard of fur attacks in years.

    I believe that PETA and the other crazies have relented in attacking "civilians". They carry-out their protests in the middle of the fashion shows when the press is present. Their protests are centered against the fur and fashion industries rather than the lady who saved her pennies to buy a mink.

    Andrew Goodman, the last family member to run Bergdorf Goodman said that 57th and Fifth is a gridlock of blonds wearing fur.

    I wouldn't wear a sable coat on the subway to the South Bronx.

    In sum, it's O.K. to wear your fur if the weather is cold.
     


  6. Mark Seitelman

    Mark Seitelman Senior member

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    A further note:

    My wife wears a fur lined coat with fur collar and cuffs and a fur hat in the subway when traveling between downtown and 86th St.

    I wear a fur lined coat although you cannot tell that it is fur lined unless the coat is open.

    Believe it or not we have the nerve (or foolishness) to wear these items when we visit our local vegan restaurant even though there is a sign that customers should not wear fur. We never had a problem. It is probably because my wife's coat is not flashy, such as a sable.

    In sum, you'll have no problem.
     


  7. norcaltransplant

    norcaltransplant Senior member

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    Why not? All locals will be wearing fur too--with the sole caveat that their furs might be various shades of lavender, magenta, purple, etc.

    NCT (transplanted to the South Bronx for 2 years...)
     


  8. Carlo

    Carlo Senior member

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    I think this is a thing of the past - PETA's terrorists discovered that when you throw paint on a $5000 coat a few things happen:

    A. Assault charges - felony
    B. Civil damages - most plea bargains involve paying for the coat (and the killing of more tubular rats as a result). Making your point is one thing, getting nailed with a $5000 penalty makes one pause.
    C. Major ass-beating. Seriously, someone attacks your wife and even the least aggressive/confrontational guy is likely to go berserk and beat the hell out of the 'activist'. Of course here in Texas, women consider a nice shiny handgun an accessory and are pretty good shots.... you think we open the door because we are chivalrous?

    I wouldn't worry about it, the cost of that particular conviction is a bit high these days. People may respect the anti-fur point of view but nobody respects those who commit assault.

    Nobody attacks us for wearing leather shoes - baby cows (calfskin) are pretty cute too but if they are wearing your future Lattanzi's... well, sorry bout that little cow.
     


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    Nothing to add, except to add a story (which I think is funny). When I was in Chicago my cousin got a rabbit fur coat at a store for like 20 bucks, severly discounted. She wanted to wear it out of the mall, since it was cold out, and it was a really beautiful coat. I said, as a joke, "Man, some PETA member's gonna throw some paint on you." She turned to me and said, as deadpan and as hard edged as you can get, "I'll whoop that muthaf*cker's ass if they try to do that s*it to me." I thought I was going to have to get escorted out of the mall, I was laughing so hard. So, its not just the gentlemen with the ladies that the PETA wackos have to watch out for. [​IMG]
     


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    PETA people are crazy. Once I saw a protest against killing rats as well as some vandalisim at a foie gras restaurant.

    Oddly enough perhaps I've seen people wear vintage furs in Berkeley. Such as Persian lamb, and such. Bohemians don't care much about animal rights though.

    Texan women seem to like their furs as well. Maybe a stereotype but one imagines women with big hair in a Cadillac wearing mink. And a mother of pearl handgun.

    Neiman Marcus' little corner always has these ridiculous demonstrations.
     


  11. Andrew V.

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    Be nice, LabelKing. Think of how much lipstick she had to sell in order to earn that Mary-Kay-pink Cadillac.
     


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    Is real fur a better insulator than fake fur?

    I don't approve of wearing fur; sometimes I wonder if I should even use leather.
     


  13. kabert

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    I don't have anything at all against wearing fur, leather, etc. However, I don't see how someone can justify being "anti-fur" yet wear any kind of leather or other animal skin (cows/gators/frogs). They both involve raising animals for the purpose of killing them. If you're anti-fur, I say you should be wearing your feet wrapped in rubber and cloth (not wearing leather Birkenstocks or croc spike heels).
     


  14. j

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    They do, although from what I've read most of the cow leather used for clothing comes from cows raised for food. Granted, almost any other type of leather, especially the better stuff (including cow), is probably specially bred. However, I doubt that they skin the calfs, deer, frogs, etc. and just throw away the rest.

    I was once asked (politely) by a girl who was into animal rights about a cheap vintage leather jacket I was wearing. I replied that I wasn't even alive when it was made, and by wearing it instead of buying a new one I might be saving a currently-alive cow. I also pointed out her leather shoes and purse, and she changed the subject.

    Many people who are, do. The Converse All-Star is one of the top shoes for the anti-fur set. I don't know how they feel about the Chinese labor conditions involved in making them, though.
     


  15. Leo Jay

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    I'm not 'anti-fur', but I can understand how one might be opposed to wearing fur but not leather. There are plenty of practical tasteful options for overcoats, but few practical alternatives to leather belts or shoes.

    Besides, minks are cuter than cows.
     


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