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Fur

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Ivan Kipling, Sep 17, 2006.

  1. VMan

    VMan Senior member

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    So, er, minks deserve to live but not coyotes and rabbits? [​IMG]

    Its a little different to me. It takes a lot of minks to make an entire coat, but it only takes part of a coyote pelt for the fur trim on a hood. Also, coyotes are shot as pest animals (not that I'm using that as a legitimate excuse) and the rabbit pelts are by-products of the meat industry. Minks are simply harvested for their fur.
     
  2. odoreater

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    I agree with mrchapel, I don't think fur looks good on either men or women. It looks crudely garish on both men and women.
     
  3. Ivan Kipling

    Ivan Kipling Senior member

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    I have eaten meat. I have worn leather shoes. Even plants are alive, when they're pulled from the ground, to be harvested. Fur coats are very warm; some say as much as six times warmer than cashmere. Depending on one's 'eye,' some furs are considered to be quite beautiful. For me personally, the glamour and romance of an outstanding fur on a woman . . . is truly spectacular. But, others disagree. As for myself . . . I've never worn a fur . . . but if I lived in a truly frigid climate, I'd have one.

    I should add too, that being 51 years old, fur has always been part of fashion as I've known it. My mother had furs, her friends had furs ... my female relatives had furs. Back then, especially for an evening out . . . it was considered stylish and fun, and something of a privilege, for women to wear a mink coat.
     
  4. odoreater

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    I've never worn a fur . . . but if I lived in a truly frigid climate, I'd have one. .

    Me too. And by truly frigid, I mean - somewhere like Antarctica.
     
  5. Ivan Kipling

    Ivan Kipling Senior member

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    Chicago can get pretty cold. Recently, not so much . . . but we had winters during the late seventies, when the average temperature in January, dipped below ten degrees. It was close to impossible to walk, down Michigan Avenue, fur or no fur . . . when I was growing up, women wore mink coats to the grocery store, to shop. High heels, all made up . . . hair done . . . that's how things were back then . . . a LONG, time ago.
     
  6. Arethusa

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    I agree with mrchapel, I don't think fur looks good on either men or women. It looks crudely garish on both men and women.
    As do I, actually, but I make exceptions for functional fur, along the lines of stuff you find in Eastern bloc military clothing.
     
  7. Nantucket Red

    Nantucket Red Senior member

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    An alternative to a pelt would be a Persian lamb coat such as this:

    [​IMG]


    That's amazing.
     
  8. minimal

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    Rarely, fur looks great on a woman, and usually that woman is very special.

    I have never seen it, ever, look good on a man. And neither has my wife, or any woman I've ever spoken to this about. I put it at the top of the canonical List Of High-Risk Clothes (followed by leather pants and cowboy hats).

    If someone has an image to prove otherwise, please show it. Cary, Fred, Humphrey, any of the greats able to pull it off?
     
  9. Ivan Kipling

    Ivan Kipling Senior member

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    [​IMG]

    Not sure about Cary, Fred, or Humphrey . . . here's Marilyn.
     
  10. JLibourel

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    I have no ethical or philosophical problem with fur per se. I think fur coats look horribly pimp-ish on men. They can be glamorous and sensual on an attractive woman.

    Making love (in the sense of hugging, kissing, caressing) an attractive woman in an elegant fur coat is a very sensual and memorable experience.
     
  11. Ivan Kipling

    Ivan Kipling Senior member

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    [​IMG]

    Here's Richard Burton, in one of his furs . . . Liz loved him, in pelts . . . she ordered many furs, for Mr. B., during their marriages.
     
  12. Dakota rube

    Dakota rube Senior member

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    Here's Richard Burton, in one of his furs . . . Liz loved him, in pelts . . . she ordered many furs, for Mr. B., during their marriages.
    I'm starting to feel a little deja vu-ish here.[​IMG] Do you like it, in pelts?
     
  13. Arethusa

    Arethusa Senior member

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    These commas, I would know them, anywhere.
     
  14. Ivan Kipling

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    Men and women have probably been wearing fur since the beginning of time.

    Just like any other piece of clothing, if you find a coat that is right for you, it will look good, whether you`re or man or a woman.
     
  16. Ivan Kipling

    Ivan Kipling Senior member

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    [​IMG]

    I like your attitude, Dragon. I think maybe this February, I'll go shopping.
     
  17. redcaimen

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    [​IMG]

    Not sure about Cary, Fred, or Humphrey . . . here's Marilyn.


    Very nice.
     
  18. Huntsman

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    Rarely, fur looks great on a woman, and usually that woman is very special.

    This is very true.

    That lamb thing above must be the ugliest article of clothing I've ever seen.

    On-topic point: Yes, I'd take the coat and have it recut for the woman of my choice. I'm very pragmatic like that.

    Regards,
    Huntsman
     
  19. Ivan Kipling

    Ivan Kipling Senior member

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    I am strictly against fur, because it is foppish, decadent and - most important - won from cruelly breed/cultured (small cages with wire floor, etc.) or killed (baby seal, etc.) animals.

    "coyote" fur: this is also won from/mixed with dog/cat fur.
     

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