I have a brand new pair of Premium skinners that I simply cannot fit into because of the low rise. They are a perfect 30x30, but won't fit people like me who normally wear 30" waist. Should be fine for 28" waists. There are a lot of threads here and on superfuture on skinners sizing, which might help when trying to find the right size. The acutal measurements are 30" waist, 29.5" inseam, 7.5" front rise. They are stamped "preworn", probably a store return. Looking for $30 shipped. Offers considered SOLD!!!!