I got these on eBay From the auction: "JOHN LOBB "CAMPUS" HANDMADE LOAFERS IN CHOCOLATE BROWN SUEDE. THEY HAVE BEEN WORN ONLY A HANDFUL OF TIMES BY MY HUSBAND. THE ONLY EVIDENCE OF WEAR IS SLIGHT SCUFFING ON THE SOLES. OTHER THAN THAT, THEY ARE SPOTLESS AND LOOK LIKE THEY'VE NEVER BEEN WORN. NO BOX BUT CEDAR SHOE TREES ARE INCLUDED. PLEASE EMAIL WITH ANY QUESTIONS OR FOR ADDITIONAL PHOTOS. SORRY, NO RETURNS. The inside of the shoe reads "12E," equivalent to approximately a 12.5D in US size." Anyone interested in these? They are a little snug (I wear 13) but would probably stretch to fit a 13D. I'd call them a solid 12 1/2 D US. I'll flip them for what I paid, $270.00 shipped. Own some Lobbs for casual Friday wear or with navy or grey flannels.