These are brand new (only worn once for less than 2 minutes). They were purchased in 2008, and I was not able to fit comfortably into them. The denim is 14oz and sanforized, so there should only be minimal shrinking when washed. The fit is straight skinny. They have the flowing wing arcs instead of the current bat wings. Measurements (laid flat and following Blue in Green's measurement methods): waist: 15in front rise: 9.5in back rise: 13.5in thigh: 11in knee: 7.5in hem: 7in Asking price is $175 shipped, but negotiable.