AAThese are the Ralph Lauren version of the C&J Belgrave, size 8.5, fits true to size, selling due to slight sizing issues. They're on the elongated 337 last, with channeled sole, full leather sock liner, and leather sole instead of oak bark like the C&J version. Based on my experience with numerous C&J handgrades, the leather quality of these are far superior, the leather is softer and has a nicer finish. Condition - worn less than 5 times, but in good condition, minor creasing. Shoe trees included (they are not lasted, but are a decent fit), as well as box and bags. 725 Retail, looking for 300 shipped CONUS, but willing to ship worldwide, PM for rates.