1. And... we're back. You'll notice that all of your images are back as well, as are our beloved emoticons, including the infamous :foo: We have also worked with our server folks and developers to fix the issues that were slowing down the site.

    There is still work to be done - the images in existing sigs are not yet linked, for example, and we are working on a way to get the images to load faster - which will improve the performance of the site, especially on the pages with a ton of images, and we will continue to work diligently on that and keep you updated.

    Cheers,

    Fok on behalf of the entire Styleforum team
    Dismiss Notice

From the logos thread: what do people think about Starbuck's

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Augusto86, Apr 29, 2006.

  1. Augusto86

    Augusto86 Senior member

    Messages:
    6,776
    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2004
    Location:
    A Cave in Afghanistan
    I'm going to come right out and say that I'm a Starbuck's employee, part-time on weekends to pay my way through college. That said:

    A)As to the burnt-coffee thing, I think it's not SO much a result of the beans(there are beans at the Bux ranging from pale brown to jet black), but the fact that brewed coffee sits for AT LEAST an hour, and if the baristas are lazy(guilty, occassionally), two or three.

    B)I grew up drinking French roasts from a Bialetti stove-top and cafezinhos in Brasil, so the darker, the better for my taste.

    C) Espresso - once upon a time, starbucks used the Marzocco, a manual machine that can make great espresso IF USED CORRECTLY. They have now switched over 90% of ops to the Verismo, a boring, bland, and easy-to use automatic that makes sub-par straight espresso. Fine for concoctions, crap for people like me who like small, strong cups. Fortunately, the store I work at has not upgraded, so I still get to use the manual machine.

    D)The starbuck's business model is admittedly brilliant, and for all their faults(read, pushing out local stores), they are pretty high up in the list of "good" companies. Not at all like Walmart.
     
  2. Huntsman

    Huntsman Senior member

    Messages:
    7,732
    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2004
    Don't like the coffee -- definitely has the burnt thing going on for me (darker = better for me as well)

    Also don't particularly enjoy the atmosphere -- it's fairly sterile, the coffeeshop of the easy intellectual.

    Oh yeah, 'barista' (sorry!!!!) and the other fairly pretensious names for things is a little manufactured and cloying.

    Nothing personal, mind you, just my honest assesment.

    Regards,
    Huntsman
     
  3. Tokyo Slim

    Tokyo Slim Senior member

    Messages:
    19,179
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2004
    Location:
    Where Eagles Dare!
    This doesn't explain why the espresso tastes burnt, as I've never had a "brewed coffee" at Starbucks. I think its very much in the roasting of the beans or the processing. Does Starbucks wet or dry process the beans? How to they roast? Is it a small batch process? I dunno, but all of the espresso I've ever had from Starbucks tastes the same. I think the color of the beans starbucks HAS has very little to do with the beans starbucks USES when I order an Americano or a shot of espresso. They always seem to use burnt tasting beans for that. Do I have to learn what kind of friggin beans to ask for when I order an americano? I'd rather just go somewhere they don't over-roast their beans in the first place. Other than that I have nothing against Starbucks. I just don't particularly like their coffee and therefore, don't go there very often.
     
  4. Nantucket Red

    Nantucket Red Senior member

    Messages:
    5,742
    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2006
    Location:
    Upper East Coast
    I have not been to Starbucks in years and have never tasted their coffee or esspresso. I stopped going when I discovered that the scones at Dean & Deluca were vastly superior. I still occasionally walk into Starbucks thinking I might want something and invariably walk out in under a minute without ordering anything.

    Segafredo is on a completely different plane of quality above Starbucks, but it seems clear that they don't have a presence in the US market. They are probably too continental for American tastes.
     
  5. Tokyo Slim

    Tokyo Slim Senior member

    Messages:
    19,179
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2004
    Location:
    Where Eagles Dare!
    I have not been to Starbucks in years and have never tasted their coffee or esspresso. I stopped going when I discovered that the scones at Dean & Deluca were vastly superior. I still occasionally walk into Starbucks thinking I might want something and invariably walk out in under a minute without ordering anything.

    Segafredo is on a completely different plane of quality above Starbucks, but it seems clear that they don't have a presence in the US market. They are probably too continental for American tastes.


    I like Segafredo and Doutor when I'm in Japan, I just can't get them here.
     
  6. Augusto86

    Augusto86 Senior member

    Messages:
    6,776
    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2004
    Location:
    A Cave in Afghanistan
    I actually prefer local places as well, despite the fact that starbucks employs me - or perhaps BECAUSE of that.
    As to the burnt thing, there's only one roast of starbuck's espresso. Perhaps it is burnt - I drink my espresso with a sugar, so I don't really taste the burnt flavor.

    Anybody from the Boston/Cambridge area? If so, ever been to Algiers? It's probably my favorite place.
     
  7. Nantucket Red

    Nantucket Red Senior member

    Messages:
    5,742
    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2006
    Location:
    Upper East Coast
    I like Segafredo and Doutor when I'm in Japan, I just can't get them here.

    Yes, Doutor is also excellent. Their Ginza shop is my favorite because of its outdoor section right on Ginza crossing.
     
  8. shellshock

    shellshock Senior member

    Messages:
    1,125
    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2005
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    This doesn't explain why the espresso tastes burnt, as I've never had a "brewed coffee" at Starbucks. I think its very much in the roasting of the beans or the processing. Does Starbucks wet or dry process the beans? How to they roast? Is it a small batch process? I dunno, but all of the espresso I've ever had from Starbucks tastes the same. I think the color of the beans starbucks HAS has very little to do with the beans starbucks USES when I order an Americano or a shot of espresso. They always seem to use burnt tasting beans for that. Do I have to learn what kind of friggin beans to ask for when I order an americano? I'd rather just go somewhere they don't over-roast their beans in the first place.

    Other than that I have nothing against Starbucks. I just don't particularly like their coffee and therefore, don't go there very often.


    i've experienced the 'burnt' taste as well. maybe the shitty baristas shots are off and they are not adjusting, or they let them sit too long?? whatever it is, it's gross.

    was this thread supposed to be about the logo? meh, its alright. green IS my favorite color though...
     
  9. Tokyo Slim

    Tokyo Slim Senior member

    Messages:
    19,179
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2004
    Location:
    Where Eagles Dare!
    green IS my favorite color though...

    [​IMG]
     
  10. Kent Wang

    Kent Wang Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

    Messages:
    5,720
    Joined:
    May 5, 2005
    Location:
    London
    The last Starbuck's I went into had an AIDS Awareness mailing list sign-up sheet. The last independent coffeeshop I went into had a Socialist International mailing list sign-up sheet.
     
  11. Tokyo Slim

    Tokyo Slim Senior member

    Messages:
    19,179
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2004
    Location:
    Where Eagles Dare!
    I honestly don't think that means anything and I hope you realize that your statement is a totally BS observation.

    The last 7-11 I went into had a down syndrome change bucket, the last Safeway I drove past had a cheerleader carwash for the senior class. Does that mean that the 7-11 sells a better product (or is a better company)? Not neccesarily.

    Besides...We all know you signed up for the commie paper Kent.
     
  12. Kent Wang

    Kent Wang Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

    Messages:
    5,720
    Joined:
    May 5, 2005
    Location:
    London
    Of course it means very little; it's simply an amusing anecdote. My biggest gripe against Starbucks is the vibe, which others have already mentioned.

    I was on the International Socialist Organization's mailing list two years ago but unsubscribed when it became clear to me that they were only interested in appeasement with the capitalist running dogs and were not really working towards the goal of international proletarian revolution.
     
  13. Tokyo Slim

    Tokyo Slim Senior member

    Messages:
    19,179
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2004
    Location:
    Where Eagles Dare!
    Thats why anarchy rules. Its ultimately the most futile of all political affiliations...
     
  14. tiger02

    tiger02 Senior member

    Messages:
    3,799
    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2004
    Location:
    NYC
    For as much as I hate anything ubiquitous, Starbucks still manages a reasonably local feel that chains like McDonalds do not. There's also a Starbucks on Arifjian, which makes it my favorite place in Kuwait.
     
  15. Augusto86

    Augusto86 Senior member

    Messages:
    6,776
    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2004
    Location:
    A Cave in Afghanistan
    Input: i went to work today and tried some un-adulterated, no sugar, no nothing espresso for the first time in a while. It was a perfect demitasse, nice crema, 1oz., very nice.

    Conclusion:
    Yeah, it tastes burnt as hell. I always put sugar in, out of cultural habit(no one drinks coffee black in Brasil).
    So, I stand corrected. The company burns the fuck out of its espresso beans.[​IMG]
     
  16. Tokyo Slim

    Tokyo Slim Senior member

    Messages:
    19,179
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2004
    Location:
    Where Eagles Dare!
    Input: i went to work today and tried some un-adulterated, no sugar, no nothing espresso for the first time in a while. It was a perfect demitasse, nice crema, 1oz., very nice.

    Conclusion:
    Yeah, it tastes burnt as hell. I always put sugar in, out of cultural habit(no one drinks coffee black in Brasil).
    So, I stand corrected. The company burns the fuck out of its espresso beans.[​IMG]


    Meh. Nobody's perfect.
     
  17. DNW

    DNW Senior member

    Messages:
    10,526
    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2006
    Location:
    Recession, Baby
    I am guilty of Starbucks patronage, but only because the local shops don't stay up late enough for my studying habits. It's not bad for a default choice because I know exactly what to expect everytime I walk in one. Plus, it's cleaner than some of the local shops. I've recently bought a french press from Starbucks and now want to make some decent coffee. Does anyone have a suggestion? I prefer something dark, like French roast.
     
  18. JBZ

    JBZ Senior member

    Messages:
    2,281
    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2003
    I don't think Starbucks is that bad, but I don't usually order espresso (just the standard coffee for me). It is certainly a darker roast, and I'm not always in the mood for it, but I like it on occasion. For a "regular cup" of good coffee at a chain, I prefer Dunkin Donuts. Ultimately, I'd rather find a good local coffee shop, but they seem to be few and far between in my neighborhood. There's one local guy around here who roasts his own beans, but he's mostly a wholesaler to several local an regional restaurants. He does open to the public for direct sales every Saturday for limited hours, but he doesn't offer on-site consumption.

    What's the opinion on Seattle's Best coffee? I've seen them from time to time, but they have no local presence for me. I ask because one of our local grocery stores has started carrying the brand, and I thought about trying it.
     
  19. Kent Wang

    Kent Wang Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

    Messages:
    5,720
    Joined:
    May 5, 2005
    Location:
    London
    What's the opinion on Seattle's Best coffee? I've seen them from time to time, but they have no local presence for me.
    Their wi-fi is free.
     
  20. imageWIS

    imageWIS Senior member

    Messages:
    20,008
    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2004
    Location:
    New York City / Buenos Aires
    Meh. Nobody's perfect.

    Ahem. [​IMG]

    Jon.
     

Share This Page

Styleforum is proudly sponsored by