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Frock coats

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by BareSolid, Sep 1, 2009.

  1. BareSolid

    BareSolid Senior member

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    Would there be anything strange about wearing a frock coat as a standard overcoat? I rather like the design.
     
  2. Modern Dandy

    Modern Dandy Active Member

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    The frock coat has been largely out of use for the last century or so, but it's similar enough to a modern overcoat that you probably wouldn't seem too strange wearing one.

    While you might attract a few stares, I doubt the average person on the street would know exactly why they are staring.
     
  3. BareSolid

    BareSolid Senior member

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    Ah... might give it a go then! Only usually put it on with the black/white tie which seems a waste.
     
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    I have just seen one of the most well dressed elderly gentlmens today near Piccadilly in London. He cam up from the Underground Station wearing a dark tan Frock Coat with black silk facing and matching bowler hat (never seen one in other colours then black), with a large red carnation on the lapel buttonhole, some sort of dark brown striped trousers and brown captoes oxfords shoes, all completed with a nice wood handled unbrella. The coat had the most stricking cut and was fitting him prefectly all buttoned up, and must have been bespoke.

    Nobody gave him a second look (aside of me that was admiring the outfit)
     
  5. TomTom

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    I have seen that same gentleman a couple of weeks ago coming out of Angel tube station. He wears his clothes with so much style!
     
  6. Lord Mulberry

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    You sure it wasn't a camel Cromby or a rain coat? The only frock coats I've seen are on Goths and Teds.
     
  7. marcodalondra

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    110% Frock Coat! I first saw him from the back and recognised the same details of the morning coat (seams, button, vents/pleats), then noticed he was wearing a matching bowler hat, and brown striped pants, so I had to overtake him and stopped for a front look, peaked, black silk facing lapels, 4x2 or 6x2 buttoned up (not sure about this)
     
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    Could someone explain a Frock coat? Google images shows many different photos.
     
  10. Ivar

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    Most of the Wikipedia article on frock coats is written by Sator, who occasionally posts here and possibly knows more about frock coats than anyone else on earth.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frock_coat
     
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    Yeh, it shows anything from really Dickensian. Oliver Twist, Great Expectations, etc. to something like Adam Ant would have worn, through to modern overcoats.
     
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    I see in the modern use section, it's primarily about military, Orthodox Jews and Teddy Boys. The rest appears to be 19th century.
     
  13. Ivar

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    I actually wore an old Edwardian frock coat when I was best man at my brother's wedding, but yes, it's definitely costume nowadays.

    That McQueen frock coat above is a pretty good facsimile. Only error is the presence of the breast pocket (breast pockets were extremely rare in the heyday of the frock coat) and the red color (black was pretty much the only accepted color for city wear from circa the 1850s onward).
     
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    Frock coats are quite popular among cowboy action shooters and other old West re-enactors in the United States (and probably elsewhere--there is quite a following for that sort of thing in Germany, for example). Quite a few "Old West Sutlers" offer inexpensive frock coats for sale.
     
  15. Hayward

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    Those undersized Covert/Crombie coats by Paul Smith and others wear very much like frock coats.
     
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    I can wager that the McQueen coat's look would not suprise anyone if someone wore that coat in a Korean subway, but Korea has lots of weird coats and it's been some years that girls started to wear cape.
     
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    So frock coats would be categorized as vintage then?
     
  18. Zac Duncan

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    Why not?![​IMG] have a try
     
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    I have a proper 1890s frock coat, but I only wear it for costume purposes - largely when I teach classes on Paris in the C19th.
     
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    Here's an 1897 painting of French aristocrat Robert de Montesquiou, wearing a grey double-breasted frock coat. Note the absence of a breast pocket.

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