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Friday WAYWRN Challenge: CM does SWD.

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by EFV, Oct 29, 2013.

MC does SWD

Poll closed Nov 4, 2013.
  1. Holdfast

    12 vote(s)
    7.0%
  2. UrbanComposition

    14 vote(s)
    8.2%
  3. NOBD

    31 vote(s)
    18.1%
  4. luv2breformed

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Orgetorix

    2 vote(s)
    1.2%
  6. Mr. Moo

    25 vote(s)
    14.6%
  7. Digmenow

    4 vote(s)
    2.3%
  8. EFV

    54 vote(s)
    31.6%
  9. timotune

    15 vote(s)
    8.8%
  10. Cotton Dockers

    6 vote(s)
    3.5%
  11. Rick's Tailoring

    1 vote(s)
    0.6%
  12. Sprezziamo

    6 vote(s)
    3.5%
  13. kulata

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  14. Kaplan

    43 vote(s)
    25.1%
  15. in stitches

    36 vote(s)
    21.1%
  16. Caustic Man

    3 vote(s)
    1.8%
  17. Pingson

    38 vote(s)
    22.2%
  18. bourbonbasted

    4 vote(s)
    2.3%
  19. gdl203

    33 vote(s)
    19.3%
  20. Tirailleur1

    64 vote(s)
    37.4%
  21. Kai

    2 vote(s)
    1.2%
  22. SpooPoker

    23 vote(s)
    13.5%
  23. Claghorn

    13 vote(s)
    7.6%
  24. Coxsackie

    2 vote(s)
    1.2%
  25. FlyingMonkey

    13 vote(s)
    7.6%
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  1. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Jewfro Dubiously Honored

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    My comment is that it's possible to be interested in sub-genres of clothing but not interested in clothing generally. For that matter, some people love shoes, the craftsmanship that goes into them, and spend huge amounts of money getting shoes they love, and couldn't care less what they wear them with. Other people are like that about watches.

    I don't think the disinterest towards other clothing argots or articles necessarily implies hostility, although they sometimes go together. At least for me, I wouldn't say that designer casual wear "lacks aesthetic value." It's just that I'm not very interested in most of it. I also have no interest in trying to convince someone who is interested in it that they're wrong.
     
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  2. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    pretty much i agree here. i dont wear them, but i have seen them executed very well by some here, so i dont write them off out of hand.


    it was inevitable.

    imho, both sides should simply agree that there is value to the other mode of dress, that is takes a lot of work to get it right, and that you may not understand what is good about fits that the other side like. but that doesnt mean that its bad because you dont get it.

    MC is not fuddy duddy old man land and SWD is not im too lazy to get dressed like a grown up land. they are both wonderful ways of dressing and people in each do come up with excellent fits.

    if you dont care to learn how the other side does because it does not interest you, that 100% fine, but it doesnt mean its bad.

    simply put, live and let live, and try to be an open minded individual.

    i do imagine most of the fits in this challenge will lean closer to MC type SWD that true SWD, but that is cool. here is to hoping this challenge produces more success than failures, and no across the board hating of any particular mode of dress.
     


  3. Kaplan

    Kaplan Senior member

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    This may be too much on the 'dadstyle / MC casual fits' end of things, but I just took these to post in the casual thread when I saw this (if I manage to put together something more SW&D'y before the deadline I may enter that instead):

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    Baracuta G4, Scaglione Air Jumper, APC NS, C&J chukkas (yes, the same ones as in the 2010 challenge), IWC Mark XV, non-vis: Sunspel lightgrey tee, dark brown Corneliani suede belt

    Ditto :embar:

    Also, full disclosure: This was definitely not a 'challenge' in the Master-Classter sense, as this is pretty much standard stuff for me.
     
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  4. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Senior member

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    Rule #1 when trying to convince people of something. Don't be preachy.
     


  5. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Senior member

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    I agree with this. The sweeping generalizations and lack of nuanced understanding that have reared their heads in this thread should be lessons to us all.
     


  6. gdl203

    gdl203 Affiliate Vendor Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    yes, but one can have developed no interest in a particular thing (whether it's music or a style) primarily because of a lack of exposure. One may have never had any interest in jazz or salsa or _____ , and then spends more time with a new friend or chick and start developing such interest. This is how we expand our horizons - most of the new things we start liking are not internally discovered but are highlighted by others, either around us or in some form of media.

    Threads like this may work as that type of catalyst for some to at least take a look outside of their zone or the style they already established for themselves, and expand it (often gradually) not because they have to, but because they may start developing an interest in things that were not available to them in the sandbox they played in. Some gateway brands for CM to an appreciation of SWD may be heritage or workwear, or designers that put a lot of emphasis on materials and textile research, like Stephan Schneider or ts(s) or DVN...
     
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  7. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Jewfro Dubiously Honored

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    Rule #1 when trying to grandstand for gratification of yourself or fawning admirers: be preachy. (not saying this is was c-w-i was doing, just a side note)
     


  8. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Jewfro Dubiously Honored

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    Absolutely. I think "horizon expanding" is a much better metaphor than "skill building," which makes it sound like dressing is something you can measure on a scale, which is a persistent, but I think pernicious, belief. Or at least it seems to me.
     


  9. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Senior member

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    True. It only serves to preach to the quire.
     


  10. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Jewfro Dubiously Honored

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    FTFY
     


  11. nahneun

    nahneun Uncle Nephew

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    this is only acceptable if someone wears full yohji
     


  12. EFV

    EFV Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I like how this thread spawns some good conversations.

    BTW, is it ok to enter a submission to a challenge you're hosting?
     


  13. archibaldleach

    archibaldleach Senior member

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    I'd say not just okay, but encouraged.
     


  14. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    indeed!


    FTFY


    im on it.


    maybe


    it is required.

    --

    Kap - looks good, mang.
     
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  15. sugarbutch

    sugarbutch Bearded Prick Dubiously Honored

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    I like the direction the conversation has taken.
     


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