Given that the convo has turned that way, and it's a question I've had for a while, I'll ask. A friend of my wife's family is a real pip (really the only way to describe her). She was once married to a rabbi and was deeply ingrained in the LA jewish community for many years, but has now become much more liberal since one of her daughters married an Hasidic man and moved to London. Over dinner one night she was talking about how irked she is by the visible wearing of tzitzit. She considers it to be underwear, and therefore should not be visible. Clearly you do not wear yours visibly, but does this put you, again, outside the norm in your community @in stitches ? Edit: Feel free to ignore if you dont wish to comment.