thanks! i figured as much. even if you said yes, i think it wold have been stretching it. i have another fit prepared that will qualify. hopefully it will also not suck. damn! thanks, S. SC - zegna wool and cashmere shirt - barba tie - borrelli silk/cashmere pents - BB milano fit donegals shoes - RL marlows -- Thanks, B! that SC of your is the bomb.