Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by poorsod, Apr 28, 2013.
How much does CdL start at these days as a matter of interest?
You won't be disappointed. He's charming, very Japanese in his way of behaving. Learned a bunch at Camps and Smalto and has great style. His prices are also reasonable for the work performed. I'm actually considering making an order. It's expensive for Italian standards but he does lovely work and his wife does the buttonholes, which she learned how to make at Camps as well.
Today, I visited Kenjiro Suzuki. I was disappointed because Japanese Tv (NHK) was here.
They are following him for 4 months to make a long documentary.
We talked a little bit about his projet. He does bespoke suit and coats. Of course everything is made at his tiny boutique located at 5 Rue D Edimbourg 75008 in Paris.
He told me that is cutting like Francesco Smalto. He created his own measurement tailor chart. He is working with his wife that also work at different tailoring houses such as Arnys, little bit of time at Cifonelli and Camps de Luca.
He seems to be working very hard with a lot of orders. Customers are more or less 65% French and 45% Japanese.
I will do a full report with pictures around November because now the Tv crew is at the boutique everyday...
I want to visit Bespoke Smalto and Berluti by Arnys.... But it's very difficult to have access !
KS has one lapel that I think is quite nice. It looks like a combination of camps de luca notch and the cifonelli's curved lapel.
Very much looking forward to hearing about this.
Need to have one of the cuffs replaced before I can post a fit pick but more French bespoke
Does Cifonelli still start at around 5k Euros? And how long is the process if I were interested in doing it in Paris - would it necessitate multiple trips or would a good week do for the first commission? Assuming I wanted something like a simple SB or DB suit?
And does anyone know when they will next visit NYC?
IIRC the price is above 5000 (give or take a few hundred euros).
Do you really think 1 week is a reasonable amount of time for a bespoke suit (particularly from a tailor that you've never used)?
If you email Cifonelli today you might be pleasantly surprised by the response.
Yes 5.200 euros, then 4.500 if you want with your own fabrics...
Lorenzo Cifonelli is travelling a lot to meet his customers. He is every 2 months in NYC and he has a good English.
You should ask for his schedule !
If you plan a trip to Paris and you only have one week. Cifonelli's ready-to-wear is pretty amazing deal !
For 2.500 euros, you have beautiful suit. Then you have Lorenzo or Massimo coming down the boutique to do the fitting.
(Best thing is to go upstairs for the fitting... ; ) )
Then in their workshop, they do all the alterations... put the buttons, sleeves length, neck, trouser length, silhouette, trouser cuff or no cuff. And they're very fast...
It's not a bespoke suit but it's very well fitted suit !
SonofGoldman, check out the video I did few months ago about them.... ->
Have a good sunday,
5200 euro must be the price with vat as I've paid less than that in NYC.
EDIT - sorry, I was mistaken about this.
Thanks for the reply, Hightoned, et al
I think you are correct and the RtW would provide a good way to see how I feel about the styling. Is there any place I can find their NYC excursion schedule? I have not been able to located it online.
Also, given what is said about the price would I be able to get VAT reimbursed to me if I do end up doing all the fittings/take delivery in Paris?
What you are indicating is that the quality of the suit from their rtw line is on par with the construction of their bespoke items?
How much for the boots?
how much is it ex-VAT?
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