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French cuff shirts with spread collar worn casually

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Galen129, Jul 1, 2012.

  1. Galen129

    Galen129 New Member

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    Hi

    I'm new to the forum and let this be my introductory post.

    I just bought some really nice and well fitting shirts from England (I live in Finland and the selection is not that good). However, being unaccustomed to buying shirts, I only noticed at home that the shirts I bought are French cuff. I rarely wear a jacket and tie and would like to wear my shirts more casually, ie. unbuttoned with cufflinks/silk knots with slacks or nice denims.
    I'm a bit self-conscious about doing that as I haven't seen anyone sporting such a style. Do you think it would be appropriate or a major faux pas?
    Btw, I have a lean build and I'm in my mid-20's in case that makes a difference.

    Galen
     
  2. tobiasj

    tobiasj Senior member

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    Welcome Galen.

    'Major faux pas'. Send them back and get barrel cuffs instead.
     
  3. justsayno

    justsayno Senior member

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    Rules are meant to be broken. Just do as you like.
     
  4. Blackhood

    Blackhood Senior member

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    Out of 100~ shirts I have maybe 6 that are barrel cuffs. In the UK French cuffs are meaningless, no one even notices them, but in the US I get the impression that you'd be arrested for wearing them unless you have several private jets and a yacht.

    Americans use them a class divider whereas the rest of the world uses them to keep the ends of their sleeves shut. I can't speak for Finland but in the UK it is more than acceptable to wear FC shirts without a tie.
     
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  5. Gdot

    Gdot Senior member

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    The spread collar worries me more than the French Cuffs.
     
  6. GBR

    GBR Senior member

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    Absolute rubbish.

    There is nothing whatever wrong with doing what you suggest.
     
  7. GBR

    GBR Senior member

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    Correct - this American phobia never ceases to amaze me.
     
  8. SpooPoker

    SpooPoker Internet Bigtimer and Most Popular Man on Campus Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    I really hope Vox drops by and lays down a fantastic explanation of the history behind french cuffs. Really.
     
  9. Galen129

    Galen129 New Member

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    Thank you for your replies so far.
    I think I might be able to pull off the cuffs.
    What about the spread collar sans tie?
    Some say the collar "rides higher" when worn like this,
    but I honestly don't know if anyone not paying a lot of
    attention would notice this.

    Galen
     
  10. Ich_Dien

    Ich_Dien Senior member

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    If you roll up the sleeves its fine.
     
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  11. Galen129

    Galen129 New Member

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    Some Internet sources claim that you can fasten the French cuff "barreled" style as opposed to the "kissing" style for a more casual approach
    Any opinions on this?
     
  12. GBR

    GBR Senior member

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    Don't fret so much about it - just get on and wear them as you suggested in the first place.
     
  13. Galen129

    Galen129 New Member

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    I think I'll do that. Thanks everyone for the help!

    Galen
     
  14. deandbn

    deandbn Senior member

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    You see OP no one really knows what they are talking about here. It is all conjecture and personal opinions. If you like your shirts, wear them and enjoy them any way you want. Roll the sleeves up or down or left or right, and button the collar up or down or with a tie or without, maybe even with a bowtie my friend. After all it is what makes you happy because you are the guy that is wearing it. If some one says they do not like it, tell them from me that they are jealous or resentful of your beautiful shirt, or both.
    :slayer:
     
  15. TimelesStyle

    TimelesStyle Senior member

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    I do this all the time. Just avoid heavy metal links (silk knots are my preference) and you'll be fine. Also, just about all of my shirts are spread collar; the only type I find looks a little odd worn open is a cutaway collar.
     
  16. TimelesStyle

    TimelesStyle Senior member

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    Agree with all of this, except does anyone in the UK actually call them "French cuffs" (vs. "double cuffs")?
     
  17. Gdot

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    I wear french cuffs predominently. Almost exclusively. With suits, with odd jackets, with trousers and no jacket. Pretty much as long as I'm not wearing khakis or jeans I'm likely to have double cuffs. I do dial the fabric choices and choice of cufflinks up and down based on formality. So with something casual it's a tattersail and the cufflinks would be something less serious, like mid century sterlling silver and wood from Taxco or something kooky from an American modernists.
     
  18. GBR

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    'French cuffs' is a term solely associated with the US. In the UK they are known as 'double cuffs'. A very large percentage of suits sold for business use are in this form and it is quite normal for office people of all ranks in a company to wear them.

    Why those in the US use this term - which would seem to be to insult the French, has never emerged here.
     
  19. tobiasj

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    ...Except that you'll look like a gigantic douchebag.
     
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    Well if he does respond to this 'bat signal' I hope that he, or someone else equally revered, would put an end to this rubbish I keep reading on here about no Bluchers with a suit. It's only in America that I've come across this Rubicon line of formality demarcation, I suppose if you repeat something often enough it becomes the 'truth' no matter what the origin.
     

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