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Fred Perry and Skinheads

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by canvas01, May 7, 2008.

  1. dave

    dave Senior member

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    But I never encountered any other kind of skin than racialist/bonehead until I moved from Florida, and I still don't think I've ever met a mod-leaning skin in person.

    you're from the Orlando area i presume? try Jacksonville. still not a great town but some good trad-skins in the area.
     
  2. Goblin

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    you're from the Orlando area i presume? try Jacksonville. still not a great town but some good trad-skins in the area.
    I'm from an extreeemely redneck town about 100 miles south of Orlando, but we went to Orlando for shows in the 80s and early 90s.
     
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    The cultural wasteland of Mid-Michigan doesn't seem to have any even remotely skin-related folks. There's apparently a rockabilly scene but I'm still trying to hunt it down.

    Pretty much every time the topic of being a skinhead (Which I'm reluctant to call myself, though I do take some inspiration from it obviously) comes up, I have to recite the whole I'm not a violent racist talk. Every now and then someone will actually be aware of the original sub-culture, but it's pretty rare.

    So my hopes of finding a skingirl to arm-wrestle are pretty slim. [​IMG]
     
  4. Get Smart

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    The cultural wasteland of Mid-Michigan doesn't seem to have any even remotely skin-related folks. There's apparently a rockabilly scene but I'm still trying to hunt it down.


    The wasteland that's known as Detroit has had its share of good oi bands throughout the years....back in the late 80s-early 90s there were 2 really good bands that each put out 3 records....The Rogues and Rival. And recently in early 2000s, there was Hated and Proud, by far one of the best American Oi bands ever.

    as for a rockabilly scene, The Twistin' Tarantulas come from Detroit as well, so there has to be some kind of cool scene going on, as that band was seriously kick ass, tho they stopped playing a couple years ago due to Pistol Pete finding out he had cancer.
     
  5. Black Cherry

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    That's reassuring. Maybe I'm running in the wrong circles.
     
  6. denimdestroyedmylife

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    it's cuz Fred Perry was the OG skinhead...running down the backstreets of the east end with tennis racket in hand, beating down paki immigrants for race and nation, and still getting to the hallowed grounds of Wimbledon in time to win 2 championships. btw, Fred Perry was also black.
    he was also very very very light-skinned: [​IMG]
     
  7. freelance robotics

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    The cultural wasteland of Mid-Michigan doesn't seem to have any even remotely skin-related folks. There's apparently a rockabilly scene but I'm still trying to hunt it down.

    Pretty much every time the topic of being a skinhead (Which I'm reluctant to call myself, though I do take some inspiration from it obviously) comes up, I have to recite the whole I'm not a violent racist talk. Every now and then someone will actually be aware of the original sub-culture, but it's pretty rare.

    So my hopes of finding a skingirl to arm-wrestle are pretty slim. [​IMG]


    A lot of the older skins who used to run around and cause trouble in the very early 90s are still hanging around Ypsilanti, and we occasionally get visitors from some of the Detroit suburbs. It's a pretty trad scene too, more sweater vest than flight jacket.

    There's actually a decent oi! scene in the Detroit area. There was a big fest on Labor Day that I missed cause of work, I think it was at Blondie's. Last time I made it out to an oi show was when I got thrown into the PA at the Double O in Redford. Good times.
     
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    The early skins were into soul and ska, right?
     
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    Don't forget reggae.
     
  10. denimdestroyedmylife

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    Alex, nice to see you slum it in this part of the woods [​IMG]
     
  13. JustinW

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    Growing-up in Australia in the 1980's, skinheads were all the kids of recent English migrants who were trying to be more English than the real English. Their identity was based entirely around this Englishness - some would later morph into racist thugs (see Romper Stomper), but most were more likely to have scones and tea, play cricket and say 'guvnah' a lot. And if they did fight, it was more likely to be with an anemic goth.

    I don't recall any Fred Perry's back then - but I wouldn't have known the difference between a Fred and the trendy pink Lacostes that everyone was wearing then.
     
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    Couldn't help myself, Jason [​IMG]
     
  15. Man-of-Mystery

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    By skinheads, do you mean neo-nazis?

    I was one of the Original skinheads in London in 1968/69 (I have just turned 60!). We were a tail-end offshoot of the mods, mainly working class. There was no overall political ethos at first - I was an anarchist and ANTI-racist. I can remember a West Indian mate of mine who said to me "We minorities have got to stick together" (he meant blacks and skinheads). We all liked West Indian music and Motown.

    However, as the skinhead fashion/movement grew, kids came to it from areas of London where there was racial tension and ignorance, and so the idea grew that it "was" a "racist" movement.

    When the fashion was revived in Britain, post-punk, in the early 1980s, it was immediately adopted as part of Neo-Nazism. BUT there was also a counter-fascist reaction, known as Red Skins, and SHARP ("SkinHeads against Racial Prejudice").

    Just so everyone is clear about that.

    M-o-M
     
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    ... oh, and by the way, the original "hard mods" and skinheads in the late 60s did wear tennis shirts. Fred Perry was preferred - I certainly had a couple - but not exclusive.

    M-o-M
     
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    Interesting thread.. something I found.

     
  18. Man-of-Mystery

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    May I pick up on the term "Spy Kids"?

    The term was first used in a tabloid newspaper in about 1969. In fact they had mis-heard some London skins saying, in cockney accents, "Spike 'eads".

    I remember having a good laugh about it at the time.

    M-o-M
     
  19. Get Smart

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    personally, I think skinheads should be skinheads without any prefix that tries to define what kind he is. I'm not fond of the ones that use it as a political position, whether they are White Power or SHARP/Red. I see both as equally unnecessary. just my 2 cents [​IMG]
     
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    Skinhead carries connotations of racism in most places in America. If you dress like a skinhead you will need to identify yourself immediately as anti-racist, SHARP, or whatever, or you'll immediately be branded a bigot. You can't "just be" a skinhead, it doesn't really work like that any more.
     

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