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Frank Lloyd Wright

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Brad, Aug 9, 2007.

  1. Lionel Hutz

    Lionel Hutz Distinguished Member

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    It is an interesting argument and actually one that I have made as well. I think you would have to contend with a number of jazz musicians (being the uniquely american art form but there may not be consensus on "best in class") as well as Bob Dylan.

    I think you would also have to contend with people who raise issues with leaks and engineering issues and the relatively narrow scope of portfolio which was constructed (being overwhelmingly residential).

    I'd be tempted to offer Warren Buffett as well. Though most wouldn't consider investing as an art form Buffett makes the analogy regularly
     
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    The idea that America's greatest artist doesn't come from music doesn't seem right to me. America has been chasing European architecture and visual art for centuries, but America (with Britain obviously) has separated itself in musical innovation and talent for the last 100 years.
     

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    Belated OP reply. We are on the same wavelength, I was considering some jazz musicians as possible contenders, but that would be within a new musical medium (jazz), that has only been around for roughly a century. Bob Dylan an interesting idea, his Nobel (first for a singer?) might bolster his chances. It's not a "provable" premise, and it's a matter of taste, but still I think Wright stacks up well as America's greatest artist, if you use his own criteria: "Best in the world in a major art discipline over the last 400 years".

    I see and appreciate your point on Warren Buffet. I have had an opportunity to be in the room in a few business meetings with him, and my sense is the he sees investing as an applied art, rather than a traditional, major, fine, art. That is my inference though, and he is occasionally inclined towards mild, ironic, hyperbole.
     

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    pasadena man Well-Known Member

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    I understand, and agree with your general point on Anglo/American musical achievement, but I am talking about an individual artist and career, using FLW's own self evaluation/criteria of :"Best in the world in a major art form over the last 400 years". By way of analogy, I think of Italian excellence in design, painting, and architecture, but not at the same level of excellence in engineering as, say, Germany. Still, one could make a case for the Italian Leonardo da Vinci as the outstanding European engineer of the last millennium.
     

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    You're right that ancient builders were not as prolific, and the four buildings you mentioned might be superior to any individual building FLW did, but he built almost a thousand, with 5-20 of them among the most significant built in the world over that time period. Once again, it's not a provable thesis, albeit a provocative one, and one I personally believe .

    Gaudi is hallucinatory to me, in a good way, his buildings almost seem to exist in another, Alice in Wonderland, world. Calatrava is certainly a striking sculptor/builder, as is Frank Gehry. I have not seen Calatrava's stuff in person, so I don't feel capable of having an informed point of view on his work.

    I also agree with you on Wright's Ennis house. It's usually considered a bit of an oddity, with the concrete blocks and all, but on it's dominating LA hillside site it has an eerie, pagan, grandeur almost unmatched in American architecture to my eye.
     

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