Formula 1 - F1 - Current Season Discussion

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  1. idfnl

    idfnl Senior member

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    Partly true, but the tires in the 80's were much more forgiving than they are now. And lasted 1/2 the race on full tanks. In addition, you could set a fastest lap in the 80's with tires at half life. Today's tire is guaranteed to be half a second off the pace by half life.

    I agree schumi is whining, but I also agree we are seeing less aggressive driving because of tire degradation. You must at least concede that point.

    Ha ha, Trulli and his power steering. Reminds me of this from '89:


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    Senna, Donnington 1993. That is all...
     
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    Wow, Maldonado. What a surprise.

    5 races, 5 winners, 5 teams. Quite an incredible season. Williams didnt score a point last season and now they win a race. Truly amazing.

    Williams looked to have been going the way of Tyrell -when the old man hangs on too long, but credit, they put some new faces on engineering side and look.
     
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    I wonder how many different ways McLaren can find to lose races for their drivers...
     
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    Demoting Hamilton to the back of the grid! Too harsh. Ten place penalty at worst.
     
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    Great race. Very happy for Williams and Pastor Maldonado. Too bad about the fire that ripped apart their garage afterwards.

    News: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/99605


    Damage here looks mostly like smoke and water damage.
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    The most intriguing portions of the race for me were the last ten laps when McLaren and Red Bull woke up and started trying to get into points. Certainly it's a far cry from last year when they were often fighting for places 1-4.

    But at least this season we won't be ordaining a winner before the final race although I agree with the above comments that the tire situation is making the results far more erratic than it ought to be. Schumacher and Rosberg just sitting out Q3 to save tires is a disturbing trend. Getting pole is less important.
     
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    Quite true. What exactly was the story behind the demotion?
     
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    Definitely. Watching Alonso try to and catch Maldonado up was brilliant. If Raikonnen had 1 more lap he'd of had Alonso.
     
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    Hamilton stopped on track after his quali lap. He did something similar in Canada 2010 (?) because if he'd driven the rest of the lap, he wouldn't have had the 1 liter of fuel left in the tank for scrutineering as mandated. The FIA has since closed that loophole.

    Yesterday, he had 1.3L left when he stopped, and McLaren tried to argue that there was something wrong with the car which caused them to tell Hamilton to stop on track. The FIA wasn't buying it (rightly so because problem or no, he would have been under 1L by the time he reached parc ferme), so to the back he went. I think a more appropriate punishment would have been a loss of five or ten places.
     
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    But why does it matter if he stopped the car? He had enough fuel.

    McLaren need a kick in the pants, they are getting in their drivers way.
     
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    FIA requires enough fuel to get back to parc ferme AND 1L for fuel sample testing. If they don't have that rule you'll have tons of cars stopping on track post qualifying. Pretty silly mistake from McLaren.
     
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    McLaren reminds me of Red Bull a couple of years ago making mistakes every week.
     

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