Formal shirts

[itsstillmatt]

I noticed this in the WAYWN thread, and liked it, but cannot remember the last time I saw a tuxedo shirt with standard buttons. Is this normal, acceptable, totally wrong? Thanks.

 

[Manton]

Totally wrong, but I see it more and more.

 

[itsstillmatt]

Originally Posted by Manton

Totally wrong, but I see it more and more.
So I should refrain?

 

[Manton]

Originally Posted by iammatt

So I should refrain?

I don't know, I agree that it does not look all that bad, but I am way too orthodox to do it. Plus, I like the look of an old world formal shirt with only one or two studs showing. Plain or etched gold for me.

 

[mdg137]

Originally Posted by iammatt

So I should refrain?

I would-- even if it were almost free, the lack of studs would constantly bother me-- or at least be in the back of my mind, and I would end up never wearing the shirt.

 

[js4design]

this is what i found after a quick search... http://www.blacktieguide.com/Classic...ents/Shirt.htm specifically "However, it should be noted that some classic etiquette authorities such as Vogue’s Book of Etiquette prescribed pearl buttons for soft-front shirts, stating that 'studs are worn only on stiff evening shirts and waistcoats'."

 

[greekonomist]

I don't wear studs because they seem to go best with stiff shirts that are too thick to take buttons. I realize it's in the spirit of formality to keep things like buttonholes "hidden" with studs, but I prefer to notch the formality down. That's why I have a regular, turn-down collar and soft-fronted shirt. And why I want to get a DB tux.

 

[A Y]

Ixnay for me. Normal buttons, even if they're very expensive and Altoids-like, look dowdy to me compared to an onyx/gold stud on a crisp white background, like there's not enough contrast. But I think tuxes should have fairly severe lines and features, so if you're not into that ...

An alternative is to have studs made from buttons so you can make it look like a normal shirt, and see how you like that. Formal shirts will often come with a little strip of cloth with buttons attached already that you can use to button up the shirt.

--Andre

 

[voxsartoria]

Originally Posted by iammatt

So I should refrain?

Yes. Please refrain.

If you want to get away from shirt jewelry, I think that a placket with hidden buttons is better.

Cravate Noire has some explaining to do...

- B

 

[speedster.8]

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

Yes. Please refrain. If you want to get away from shirt jewelry, I think that a placket with hidden buttons is better. Cravate Noire has some explaining to do... - B
+1

 

[js4design]

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

Yes. Please refrain.

If you want to get away from shirt jewelry, I think that a placket with hidden buttons is better.

Cravate Noire has some explaining to do...

- B

i agree on this. i've been looking for a formal shirt with the hidden placket for a few weeks now.

 

[LeonM]

I think MoP attached buttons on a turn down collared evening shirt are fine. I would go for no placket however, unlike the photo above.

Leon

 

[voxsartoria]

Originally Posted by LeonM

I think MoP attached buttons on a turn down collared evening shirt are fine. I would go for no placket however, unlike the photo above.

Leon

MOP buttons with shanked attachments would fine...like these occupation Japanese MOP buttons that Kent Wang has made up into cufflinks:



Without a placket, those would look quite elegant.

I can't, however, go with normal pierced buttons.


- B

 

[Will]

Originally Posted by iammatt

So I should refrain?

Twenty years ago I didn't specify the closure and Turnbull & Asser unasked made me a couple of pleated dinner shirts that can either be buttoned with MOP buttons or closed with studs.

I wear them buttoned at home, with a smoking jacket, or with studs if I wear them out.

I'd have done without the buttons (none of my other evening shirts have them), but the button option has apparently been around for a long time.

 

[voxsartoria]

Originally Posted by Will

Twenty years ago I didn't specify the closure and Turnbull & Asser unasked made me a couple of pleated dinner shirts that can either be buttoned with MOP buttons or closed with studs.

I wear them buttoned at home, with a smoking jacket, or with studs if I wear them out.

I'd have done without the buttons (none of my other evening shirts have them), but the button option has apparently been around for a long time.

Will, are your MOP buttons sewn to a single strip that provides the backing to all the buttons?

The reason I ask is that I thought this was kinda standard.

- B