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Forbes Most Expensive Suits

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by dhinggok, Nov 6, 2004.

  1. dhinggok

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    50-60 new suits a year? Wear them of course. It would be a bit of a waste though if you didn't find a dozen needy people to whom you could give the "old" ones.

    Personally I couldn't imagine more than a dozen new suits a year, even if it was anywhere near affordable. And who would spend over two grand for an off the rack suit? Seems a bit ridiculous.
     
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    You'd have to question your friends' true feelings when you look around and you have 30 hangers-on that happen to be a 40L... [​IMG]
     
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    I love the fact that there is no distinction between MTM and bespoke in this article. At 10-15k a pop, I might be inclined to pick out the individual sheep and know their names before deciding on cloth, cut, etc.
     
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    How anyone tried the Korean woman mentioned in the article?  I've come across that name before, but have never viewed an actual garment nor heard the opinion of an actual customer.
     
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    Has anyone tried Jon Green? I know he used to work with Alex Kabbaz, but I am not sure how his business works now? He seems pretty expensive, $5,100 and up per suit, but then again, so is William Fioravanti. From what I have seen of Fioravanti, his work is very unimpressive.
     
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    They forgot to mention Brioni, Canali Exclusive, Zenga Napoli, or Attolini? Yet they mention Gucci (made by Zegna) YS ...
     
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    Good lord. I love expensive suits as much -- maybe more -- than the next guy, but this is preposterous. The prices are offensive. And the quality, from what I could tell of the underlit photos in that slide show, was almost (but not quite) uniformly underwhelming. The Lianna Lee coat in particular looked awful.
     
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    Brioni is mentioned. Vacca's suits are made by Attolini.
     
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    Well, it is Forbes, the self-titled "Capitalist Tool". I imagine the target readership of pieces like these, if not of most of the magazine, is the person who thinks himself a plutocrat, with more money than time (to research suits) if not sense. In such cases, as someone pointed out earlier, perhaps the higher the price, the greater the cachet for such people.

    To be kind, manton, do you think the reason the Liana Lee suit looked egg-like might be because the mannequin it was on was too big? On reflection, I doubt that could entirely account for the ugliness of the suit -- the lapels were aircraft- carrier wide and apparently covered part of the breast pocket... The Jay Kos MTM looked truly awful and scoops the fugly awards for me -- the fellow it was on looked like he had the proportions of Barney. What did you think of Lennie's creations? I'm a bit surprised that Alan Flusser didn't figure in there somehow -- thought he had his finger in many pots.
     
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    Oh, no question. I am in the wrong business. Several of those mentioned in the article are not even tailors. Perhaps anyone with decent taste and some seed money can open an atelier, sell outsourced "custom" suits, and charge thousands more. The more charged, the better for business.
     
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    Some of those suits had pocketsquares that matched the tie. I thought that wasn't the done thing?
     
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    That Barney looking fellow is Jay Kos himself.
     
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    Not by anyone who knows how to dress or who cares about aesthetics.
     
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    How odd. The World's Just A Ball Of Confusion. I'm sure I read somewhere that matching the pocketsquare with the tie was considered 'trying too hard'; I remember being aghast because that's what I did at uni.

    Is having the same material and colour frowned on, instead of 'toning' them? Or does it really not matter at all?
     
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    I can live with having the breast pocket's corner slightly covered. But the lapel width and shape are unforgivable. And that coat looks like it's falling off the shoulders. If it's true that it's just badly placed on the mannequin, then what does it say about Ms. Lee that when photographers come to shoot her clothes for inclusion in an article like this, she doesn't do everything possible to show them off at their best?  One may not like the pattern in the Huntsman photo, but one has to admit that they did manage to show their silhouette to advantage.

    Also, anyone who charges $5,000 for a suit ought to know that double stitching the lapel's edges is simply an affront. There are very few garments on which that kind of double stitching works, and dark worsted business suits are not among them.

    Meet Jay Kos.  At least he's up front that the suit is MTM.

    I think they are exquisitely made, and fit perfectly (the best fit in the business) but the silhouette is not to my taste.  It's a little stiffer than I like, with a tighter chest and blade area.  Also, I prefer a more sloped shoulder.  And why did he put brass buttons on that windowpane coat?  I suppose the customer must have asked for it, but it looks odd to me.

    Flusser is not that expensive.
     
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    It's better to have the materials "clash": linen or wool sqaure with silk ties; silk squares with linen or wool (or cashmere) ties. This is not iron-clad, however.

    Squares that precisely match the color and/or pattern of the tie look bad; sort of like you lack imagination. Plain white linen almost always works. Or the square can reflect the color of the shirt. Or, if the square has a lot of colors, it can accent (without matching) one or more of the colors of the tie.
     
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    Who cares what the suits look like when you can buy them for 20K?

    These types of articles would be offensive, if they weren't so damn pathetic.  It reminds me of that joke about the Russian mobster who thought himself sartorially superior to a friend of his because he bought for $400 the same tie that his friend got for a mere $200.  Sad, really.  I imagine that people who read Forbes and take it seriously are the same type of people who consider Donald Trump classy.  I love it when he looks into the camera with that expression he picked up from Goodfellas and says "I'm very proud of XYZ.  It's classy.  It's one of the classiest places in the world."
     
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    That reminds me... IMMSMC, there is a tailor in London's Savile Row by the name of James and James, which offers a fully handmade bespoke suit for 20,000 dollars (or is it pounds?). Every stitch on the suit is by hand; apparently they will deliver it by helicopter to you. Remarkably, they have had commissions. I do not know if they still offer that service. I imagine that the folks commissioning it may have put the cherry on the berry by ordering the Trump-classy Scabal diamond-dust, lapis lazuli-pinstripe, or gold fabric. They might as well line the damn thing with dollar bills rather than canvas.
     

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