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FOOTBALL • VOETBAL • FÚTBOL • CALCIO • FUTEBOL - 2013-2014 THREAD

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by DLester, Jun 2, 2013.

  1. El Argentino

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    Bonucci FTL. Oh well.
     


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    fucking hell y spain again. italy did well to contain em
     


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    Bit more than contain imo. During the 90 minutes I felt Italy were much more aggressive and entertaining.

    The last 10 minutes of extra time were the best for Spain.
     


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    it was odd to see spain play such a pedestrian game. brazil is very young -- too young, but it should make for an interesting match on sunday
     


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    Well done Brazil, thoroughly outplayed Spain. Spain looked very tired though, I'm sure they'll be better come the World Cup.
     


  8. El Argentino

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    Had to avoid the Internet today until I saw the TiVo'd final. Holy crap. What a thrashing Spain got. Straight laid over Brazil's lap and took a spanking.

    Although let's be honest. Spain plays Barça ball, only without Messi. This last season, elite teams unlocked the Barça equation, so should it have really been a shock to see both Italy and Brazil do the same?

    I don't want to discredit Brazil's fantastic performance, but Spain had it coming since the Euros last year. Spain have no true striker and no Plan B for when the tiki-taka fails.
     
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    teams are realizing they don't have to park bus. press them all the way + counter attacks... that's basically the real madrid gameplan. Nigeria went at them that way. Italy as well- only Italy didn't have strikers as solid as Brazil or Madrid. Then the longer the game went, Spain can count on their huge pool of talent (Mata and Martinez as subs??!) and slowly gain the upper hand.
     


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    yes.

    This is how Chelsea have been one of the most successful teams against Barca over the past 10 yrs or so. They press Barca all over the pitch, deny space, get physical and stay dangerous on the counter.

    When Chelsea beat Barca, it tends to be because they made the most of their set pieces. Your only chance to score against Barca may be set pieces, so you can't waste those.

    You can't play scared.

    The 2012 CL games featured some of this but Chelsea were more defensive than usual in those games due to necessity -- a long story that is not for today.

    Compare this strategy with Uruguay/Spain. At one point Uruguay had 7% possession. They completely surrendered all but their own third to Spain. Can't do that. You can't let them get comfortable in your half.

    Do not give Spain/Barca the space to get the magic show going. When that starts, you are done.
     
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    ^they parked the bus and were only successful in 2012. You can't say that Chelsea is a successful team.

    Also you can't compare Spain and barca. Spain was outplayed because they had to play 2 games in 3 days.
    Barca from 2009 to 2011 was not beatable with normal tactics, I guess not even with the bus.
     


  12. El Argentino

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    Why is transfer news not abuzz with teams going after Reus? He'd be my first target were I a DT.
     
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    They are 3-2-5 in their previous 10 matches with FCB.

    By what measure is that "not successful?!?!"
     


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    From which period are those 10 games?
     


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    Since the 04/05 Champions League, which corresponds to DLester's "last 10 years or so" comment.
     
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