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Foo shops for a Japanese knife

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by mafoofan, Jan 21, 2013.

  1. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt Well-Known Member

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    What would we then consider the wet farts adorning the sides of Kramer's expensive knives?
     
  2. foodguy

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    i think they're just for purties -- the blade equivalent of fake buttonholes
     
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    i love how fg frequently offers an alternative translation to the technical talk, but translates it in terms of men's clothing to fit the vernacular of the forvm.
     
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    That makes one an excellent communicator.
     
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    The metal can still be folded over on itself - and probably any Japanese knife worth anything is forged that way whether you can see the folds or not.

    Forgive me if this was a rhetorical question, Matt, because you most likely already know the ins-and-outs of the metallurgical component of these knives anyway.
     
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    wha, huh?
     
  7. itsstillmatt

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    Thanks. I actually know nothing about it. I don't science. So, what was damascus originally, if you don't mind explaining.
     
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    originally, damascus steel was made by folding together different types of steel in order to get both hardness for endurance and softness for the best sharpening. kind of like a laminated dough (there! I did it again!). :slayer:
     
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    There are, one might say, three kinds of 'Damascus': There's the real damascus, which is actually a lost thing, like Greek fire. I think there was a good article on this in Scientific American about ten years ago. Then there is 'pattern-welded' steel, which is what most people call real damascus today -- where multiple types of steel (sometimes other elements are laminated in, too, like nickel; which I think Jot Singh Khalsa may have started) are placed atop each other, heated and folded and heated and folded while hammering them together -- this is called forge-welding. Then there's really fake damascus, which is merely steel impressed with patterns that may sometimes be treated or painted to enhance.

    True pattern-welded steel will not fade per se, if made of carbon steel, it may patina like everything else. Some steels may be acid-eteched to bring out some of the contrasts, but this is not to common in culinary steels.
    It's pattern-welded. For a minute I was offended, thinking that you were calling very beautiful wood a wet fart.
    Yes, this is mille feuille in the steel world. Though, I don;t think if everyone is really certain it was made by folding in the beginning.

    ~ H
     
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    My opinion is that the origin of Damascus steel is along the lines of how the Japanese sword makers blended a variety of steels together to create a worthwhile steel. Blending very hard tool steels with softer steels likely allowed them to create a worthwhile, resilient blade that held and edge. The process probably fell by the wayside as better and more consistent refining techniques became available.
     
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  13. SkinnyGoomba

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    That looks nice, can you send it to NJ for testing?
     
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    Noyce! Did you go with the 210?

    Edit: Oh shit, there was a price increase? Website is showing $200 now.
     
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    210. Was $180 in store.
     
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    Just ordered a couple of Tojiro's DP 3 HQ knifes to see them in person. Will post pictures when they arrive. Hope I'll like them. Would be better for my budget than MAC pro knifes.
     
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    i am allergic to the post office
     
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    Arent we all...
     
  19. SkinnyGoomba

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    Why are the traditional Japanese looking knives from the same makers more expensive?
     
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    They aren't always.

    But when they are the typical answer is because they take more steel and are harder to make.
     

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