These shoes are tanks, with heel and toe cleats, and tons of life left in the double sole. I did a cleaning, polishing, and sole dressing myself. The uppers look fantastic, with only light scratches. The right shoe has a very small scratch at the toe. They are the casual tan PTB that every man's wardrobe needs. The same show as seen here http://www.classicshoesformen.com/s...al-scotch-grain-derby-blucher-circa-1980-425e and http://www.classicshoesformen.com/s...-grain-plain-front-derby-blucher-42-425narrow but with a toe cleat. feel free to make offers!