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Florsheim by Duckie Brown Cordovan Shoe & Boot Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by NAMOR, Mar 16, 2011.

  1. NAMOR

    NAMOR Senior member

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    During the recent Brooks Brothers sale, I purchased the tan cordovan longwing made by Duckie "Duckey" Brown. I got them in the mail today and here is what they look like: [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] As you can see from the various closeups, the leather looks poor for Cordovan and its made by Horween to boot. The color is "tan" but looks really flat for shell; no luster. The dark spots on the vamp seemed to have been caused from excess/leaking tanning oils. Also, the right heel is as wide as a softball. Shoes appear to be in brand new condition so I have no explanation for this. The quality seems to be several notches below Alden. Stitching is loose in some areas and the shoes smell like lacquer, presumably from the sole dressing. As some other posters previously mentioned, these are in fact made in India. One plus is that these shoes fit great. SO question, should I keep these? I want a pair of Alden LWs in whiskey but I am not ready to pay $650 for a pair. After taxes, shipping, etc I paid ~$360 out of pocket for these. They retail for $575 before taxes & shipping on the BB website

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    Size down a half size, they run large. I take the same size in DB as I do barrie, trubalance, and grant last
     
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  2. Mr. Moo

    Mr. Moo Senior member

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    [​IMG] send those things back to where they came from.
     
  3. acecow

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    They look like a chocolate cookie. Or maybe I'm just hungry.
     
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    SpooPoker Internet Bigtimer and Most Popular Man on Campus Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    [​IMG] send those things back to where they came from.
    +1. I was not impressed with their cordovan shoes at all. My only experience is with the BB C&J cordovan boots. C&J were so much nicer.
     
  6. NAMOR

    NAMOR Senior member

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    the shoes smell like lacquer, presumably from the sole dressing.
    I stepped out of my room for a minute and when I came back in, the smell of lacquer just filled my nostrils. Damn, damn, damn, shoes fit great. But thats the only thing going for this pair. I hate self-induced shoe drama
     
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    Just return them, man. Obviously, they aren't working out for you... too many doubts.
     
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    Newlaw Senior member

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    So what is the future line-up for BB? Right now I thought it was something along the lines of:

    Cordovan = Alden
    Peal & Co = C&J
    Dress Calf = ??

    What is the new line-up?
     
  9. NAMOR

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    So what is the future line-up for BB? Right now I thought it was something along the lines of: Cordovan = Alden/Duckey Brown [​IMG] Peal & Co = C&J Dress Calf = Allen Edmonds What is the new line-up?
    Just return them, man. Obviously, they aren't working out for you... too many doubts.
    already boxed up
     
  10. Newlaw

    Newlaw Senior member

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    already boxed up

    lol wow. Thanks for filling in the line-up.

    When I first opened the thread and saw the picture, I immediately thought "corrected grain??" Sorry they didn't work out for you.
     
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    DOMO!!! [​IMG]
     
  12. MyOtherLife

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    I would have kept them.
     
  13. isshinryu101

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    I am of the belief that the quality of Horween shell cordovan has GREATLY declined over the years. I'm not sure if it's only certain batches, but I've een some real CRAP shell in recent years. I had a pair of new AE MacNeil's that had the dullest looking shell I had seen. No amount of brushing could bring it up, so they got sold.

    Even some of the Alden shell I've seen from more recent models seems to be of lower quality than older shell used by Alden. The more recent Alden shell I've handled wasn't in the same class as the old Florsheim v-cleat shell, WHICH REALLY POPS!

    If someone was trying to buy some cordo long-wings, I would HAVE to suggest just getting a pair of old Florsheim v-cleats, or an older Alden model. Unless it's NOS, the vintage shells are a great bargain, I think. Florsheim v-cleats with minimal wear run from $125-$175 on ebay, and vintage Aldens maybe 2x that. ALSO, the construction was great then.

    As for the construction issues, what we see here is EXACTLY what we should expect from China or India made shoes.
     
  14. isshinryu101

    isshinryu101 Senior member

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    I would have kept them.

    With so many cordo longwing options available, may I ask why you'd keep them?
     
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    [​IMG] If you aired them out for a few weeks and then used Saphir wouldn't that have handled the smell and provided the requisite shine? Just askin', that's a great price for new tan shell.
     
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    It's fit first and looks second.
     
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    LMAO thats funny!
     
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    ^ Funny, although sadly true. [​IMG]
     
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    With so many cordo longwing options available, may I ask why you'd keep them?
    I'd be happy to tell you why. Because the Duckie Brown line and the Veblen are better than anything Florsheim has produced in a long long time. The quality will be there, especially for this price. I do acknowledge the initial industrial-like scent that the OP is concerned about. This will weaken and disappear in time, and I would rather have spent money on these current and new Duckie Brown cordos, than seek out some NOS pair of 20 or more years ago where the condition of the cordo will be questionable. Secondly, it is the color. This butterscotch color is just so beautiful and uncommon that I would make an exception in this case. I just don't think you can find this color in cordo for the same price anywhere else, and if anyone knows another option please post it. These Florsheim Duckie Brown longwings are half the price of a pair of Alden lonwings in Whiskey cordo. I am seriously considering buying a pair of these Florshiems myself.
     
  20. texas_jack

    texas_jack Senior member

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    It's fine. I paid almost $500 for my ravelo wingtips from leathersoul but they're perfect. What you paid won't be matched anywhere.
     

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