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Fixing eyes, anybody done it?

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by Condor, Jun 15, 2007.

  1. onion

    onion Senior member

    Aug 26, 2007
    Pros: Waking up at any hour and being able to see the clock. Another plus is having a cleaner rim around my toilet.
    My contacts are allowed to be kept in for up to 30 day periods with no need to clean them. I sleep in them with no issues. [​IMG] My dad got corrective surgery and it did work for a period of time, however he is now back to having to wear bifocals. He said the entire process was a huge waste looking back. He did however have the surgery a good 10 or so years ago, when it first became popular, so I'm sure the process is somewhat different now, and wouldn't doubt results are much better now adays.
  2. lawyerdad

    lawyerdad Senior member

    Mar 10, 2006
  3. Renault78law

    Renault78law Senior member

    Jan 29, 2003
    Los Angeles

    Cons: LASIK is perhaps the most terrifying procedure you'll ever go through. You're completely awake and your eyes are numbed but not paralyzed so when they're cutting into your cornea, the doctor informs you not to move your eyeballs (your eyelids are held open clockwork orange style). I believe the newer wavefront procedures alleviate this problem. Getting back to the gore, while you don't feel pain, you feel the sensation of the doctor's blade-like contraption sawing into your cornea (because of the vaccuum suction placed onto the flap, you're completely blind at this point so all you see is blackness while your eyes are open).

    Next thing you know, the corneal flap is flipped open. Because of the change in light diffraction between your cornea (or lackthereof) and the liquid aqueas humuor inside your eyeball, when the corneal flap is flipped opened, it appears as if you're under water. Next, the doctor shoots a frickin laserbeam into your half opened eyeball to reshape your lens (all the while the smell of burning tissue permeates around your eyeball). To finish, the "doctor" just flips the flap closed and tells you not to rub your eyes for the next 48 hours else you'll go blind. Apparently the eyeball is self-sealing. Just needs time to heal. The next 24 hours are going to be excruciating pain. It feels like your eyeballs are on fire and someone is pissing denatured alcohol into the scorching coals in your eye socket.


    Hilarious. You should be on the Counsel Against Corrective Eye Surgery. I've seen this procedure done, and this is an accurate depiction.
  4. Sartorian

    Sartorian Senior member

    Feb 23, 2007
    I used to sell lazers for eye surgery. There is a small chance of screwing you up. if they do, what that usually means is a series of surgeries to fix the problem - it is almost unheard of to create a problem that can't be fixed. that said - watching eye surgury is a lot frekier than watching heart surgury, very gross.
    I asked my doctor about Lasik. I was 30 at the time. He told me about night vision deterioration and far-sightedness by age 40. Basically, he said, I'd have about 10 years of perfect vision, but probably have more trouble seeing at night (I already do) and then have to wear reading glasses. He told me he had one patient who went and got it done without talking to him beforehand. The machine malfunctioned and shaved away the patient's cornea. She had to have emergency surgery to have it salvaged and replaced. He also pointed out that since they remove the top layer of your cornea, any later damage you might suffer could cause permanent scarring. I suffered two scratches to my cornea when I lived in W. Africa, and since I travel a lot, I decided I didn't want to risk this. It DOES render your eyes more vulnerable to permanent damage, and that's definitely something you should factor in. It's not that hard to scratch a cornea--a pebble of sand on a windy day at the beach, as an example. Another option, the one I keep waiting on, is a semi-permanent contact: they cut a single incision into the side of the cornea, slide in a contact, and let it heal over. This adjusts the curvature of your existing cornea, and it's also removable later. I was also reading about the contact lenses that adjust the eyes through use. I'm interested in that: it was just approved by the FDA, which is good and bad. I'm 35. I'm not going to do LASIK. I'll live with the poor options I have right now. I am, however, considering switching from soft 3-month disposable back to RGP lenses (fewer bacterial problems and better eye health). Best for your eyes is glasses. Condor, what kind of lenses do you wear? I have astigmatism, though my vision's a little better than yours. Currently I wear Toric lenses, but I think I'm going to go back to RGP's, which is what I used to wear.
  5. alliswell

    alliswell Senior member

    Jul 8, 2007
    You forgot the smell of burning flesh as the surgeon shoots fricking laser beams into your eyes. That's why they give you the Xanax. Or the Thorazine. I can't remember which [​IMG]

    On a serious note, the decrease in night-vision is something to think about, as is the starring effect of lights at night. The latter faded for me after a couple of years; my night-vision makes it a little more difficult to drive at night.

    Hilarious. You should be on the Counsel Against Corrective Eye Surgery. I've seen this procedure done, and this is an accurate depiction.

  6. lee lin

    lee lin Senior member

    Jun 25, 2007
    has anyone had bladeless lasik? i went to my eye doctor yesterday to get glasses and discovered my grade hasn't changed in 3 years. i was actually only waiting for my grade to stabilize before getting lasik. anyways he mentioned that i could wait for the bladeless lasik which is being marketed as having "top gun" vision here in asia because they say your vision is as clear as a pilot's.
  7. kakemono

    kakemono Senior member

    Jul 26, 2007
    when i read the thread title, I was thinking this would be about natural ways to improve vision - such as excersizing your eyes and whatnot.

    fail [​IMG]
  8. Hard2Fit

    Hard2Fit Senior member

    Aug 9, 2006
    I had lasik 7 years ago.

    One of the best things I ever did.

    What he said.
  9. amiestilo

    amiestilo Active Member

    Jan 18, 2008
    Another option, the one I keep waiting on, is a semi-permanent contact: they cut a single incision into the side of the cornea, slide in a contact, and let it heal over.

    Currently I wear Toric lenses, but I think I'm going to go back to RGP's, which is what I used to wear.

    I wear RGP's as well. Far better vision than soft lenses, for my extreme near-sightedness anyway, but man are they uncomfortable after a long day! Constant re-wetting, they easily pop out and I find my eyes are also easily irritated by dust and wind (especially when cycling).

    When I looked into Lasik I was diagnosed with "thin corneas" by several doctors so I am not a candidate for that. I am currently considering the lens-implantation surgery but a bit apprehensive, as you may imagine.

    Has anyone had the lens-implantation procedure done? I'd be very interested in your comments.
  10. TheRealAshland

    TheRealAshland Senior member

    Jan 5, 2008
    South Atlanta
    i would rather jus wear glasses for the rest of my life... its way safer, i would never wanna take a chance with somthing like that .. i know people who have done it and have had great results and even have had it a second time and have had even greater results,... i love wearing glasses.. id rather do that....for the next 70 or 80 years of my life
  11. rxcats

    rxcats Senior member

    Jul 16, 2007
    San Francisco
    I know 4 different people who have had surgical vision correction. I am not sure exactly which procedures were used. All 4 are in health care (pharmacists) and pretty well connected to the most updated procedures. One guy had the procedure done about 15 years ago and has been happy with it; he said it was the "second" best operation he ever had (he also had a vasectomy!). I have lost touch with him, but I am sure he has presbyopia as he is around 50 by now. The next guy was around 35 when he had his procedure done; that was about 10 years ago now. He was never happy with it. He got good correction in one eye, but the other was always blurry. He even had a second procedure done in that eye and it was no better than before. He still wears glasses most of the time. One of my colleagues at my current job had her vision corrected several years ago and still has 20/20 in both eyes; she is in her early 40's now and will need reading glasses soon, but she still feels it was very much worth it. Another friend/colleague had her eyes done about 4 years ago. She had perfect vision in one eye for the first year and OK vision in the other. Both eyes have deteriorated over the past couple of years, so she now wears glasses if she is out and about or driving. Her vision is OK uncorrected, if using the computer or reading. She will be 46 in April and has begun developing presbyopia and will probably be in bifocals next year. She does not like to admit it, but I think she regrets having it done.

    I have worn glasses since I was about 16. I have slight myopia and severe astigmatism. I now wear contact lenses most of the time. I tried hard lenses years ago because they didn't make soft lenses for people with significant astigmatism; thank goodness for development toric lenses. I hated the hard lenses! I still wear glasses sometimes for the fashion statement; I have at least 5 or 6 pairs in current rotation. Personally, I would never consider any surgical vision correction unless it was part of needed cataract surgery. I am 47 and just had an eye exam 2 weeks ago; my optometrist says my eyes are highly resistant to presbyopia. I still don't need even the weakest correction for reading. I have been told that can change almost overnight. Suddenly I am going to have all these glasses that will need new lenses! It will still be cheaper than LASIK.

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