i thought it would be much easier to find a fitted undershirt. i am just trying to find an undershirt that fits...has some length to it, doesnt have huge arm holes and tons of extra fabric around the torso. going down a size makes me look like a boy with his clothes shrunk too short. polo used to make them that way but they stopped. gap has some but the people i live around raise a stink about gap, nike, etc and mess with people.