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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by wmmk, Apr 19, 2009.

  1. PinkPantser

    PinkPantser Senior member

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    wait, I though it was spelled breakfasthatre?
     
  2. tagutcow

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    wait, I though it was spelled breakfasthatre?

    Who the hell hates breakfast? You'd have to be crazy!
     
  3. Asch

    Asch Senior member

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    wmmk,

    Trial and error, as most guys have said. In your specific case, I'd recommend working out your upper body to widen your shoulders, back, and chest a bit; this will make it MUCH easier to find clothes that you look good in. (You'll notice that fellow skinny posters who look great in all their fits, such as Lel, actually have a pretty athletic drop.) To reduce the appearance of your hips, I'd suggest wearing pants that fit tight in the top block but do not taper excessively through the leg, as many of your current pants do.
     
  4. chronoaug

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    or from one instance of analyzing their body types and figuring out tangible reasons that certain pieces did or did not work. Certainly not this. This sounds creepy So, I guess I have a lot of questions:
    • How did you go about figuring out what kind of fits work for you? i dunno. think about it in my head. maybe try it on
    • What specific aspects of a piece can emphasize torso taper, create illusion of narrower hips, elongate legs, etc.? i have no idea what this means
    • Can fit be as simple as wearing clothes that are slim, but not tight? pretty much for when i dress in slim clothing
    • What exactly marks the difference between a purposely oversized piece and something that is simply too large? certain items are cut well. also, mixing oversized stuff in makes you have to work proportions more than just slim all over which is really easy
    • Why is it that wearing skinny jeans and a more relaxed OCBD looks weird, while Patrik Ervell's whole chunky sweater-with-narrow trousers look works?
    • How does fabric/material affect fit in terms or drape? very very much
    I look forward to hearing all of your opinions; sorry for my usual wordiness.

    i read some of it at least. good lord, man. lighten up. Fit, proportion, color, texture, patterns. There is no perfect singular way to go about it and trying to figure it out like a math problem is just going to make you more frustrated. Why do you care about oversized and drapey stuff? It's not really going to work with the uber clean prep stuff you're into. Grungy stuff, washed out 80ish are fun as well in addition to the prep and then dark/gloomy looks. I love me some good drapey fits with looks other than just slim shirt/slim jacket/slim jeans/slim shoes. Doing that is so easy though which is why i go to it when i am feeling safe. Then again, i know getsmart and pinkpantser are fans of "pick something and stick with it." If i felt dressing like modern grandpa or skin/mod completely captured or satisfied me, i'd probably pick that and go with it for life like them. However, i don't just like one genre of music or movie, nor do i feel like dressing one way every day. You can ask gosurface, my attention span is all over the place. Also, eating a bag of baked lays sour cream n onion chips once a week helps keep my stylish physique. They're just so good
    are you a robot?
    hahahahha
     
  5. theom-

    theom- Senior member

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    Wmmk, you've got some good questions that I've been wondering about myself.
    In my opinion, I think you should keep your style the way it is for now. It's simple and you've got some good fits. The best thing you can do now is just increase you muscular mass. Join a sport. Something like swimming or water polo would be great. I do both myself. That on top of weightlifting at your local y, you'll begin to see a big difference in how shirts fit you.
    Also, try some slim straight leg jeans. Until I bought gray journals I didn't know that I like the cut so much. They also tend to look good on taller guys.
     
  6. db_ggmm

    db_ggmm Senior member

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    For the "lighten up" crowd - thanks for the input. The majority of you were born lucky and can roll around in dog shit and look pretty good doing it. A couple of you probably worked for it. The rest of you have little else than genetics to thank. Your nonchalance doesn't count.



    For the thinkers who are posting, there are some common threads of thought.

    Exercise matters. And you've got something going for you here - you're young. Start now. There's no reason to go nuts. The point isn't to be an extra for the movie 300 by the end of college, but rather to be a healthy and attractive 25... 30... 35... 45 year old.

    The questions you are asking should be asked when one looks great naked, but not so great wearing clothes. That person is doing something wrong. If you do not yet look great naked, clothing can only provide the illusion that you do. What is honestly easier? To work out and look great naked... or to try and weigh each and every purchase from now until the end of time to determine whether or not it *hides* some physical flaw?

    If you see big hips while standing naked in front of a mirror, wearing shoulder pads can only take you so far. Do pull ups and push ups instead.

    Case in point - I'm looking into this right now: http://stronglifts.com/lordosis-why-...how-to-fix-it/ - It is easier for me to work on fixing this than it is to work on hiding it.



    Less on the body modification front is the question you have about wearing clothes that are flattering. Women study this. Men aren't so accustomed to doing so, producing the range of responses you're getting here.

    Someone else said it first, but I'm definitely feeling that if your waist and up isn't a nice V build, you can't wear skinny legs. Skinny legs will emphasize hips. If you have slim shoulders, <boom> you're a beach ball (even if you're skinny). The less athletically, greek godly proportioned your hips are in your total appearance, the larger your pant leg needs to be.



    Keep in mind, too, that SF and SuFu have thousands of readers, yet only two dozen waywt posters regularly post. These people are pretty special. They easily look good in a lot of what they wear. What are the odds you're gonna be one of these people? Not good. And it's not due to "taste". It's genetics.

    I know you flip through waywt here and think the guys look pretty normal, but take a sec and think about some of the women who post fits. Bizzy? tg###? CBD? CBD catches a ton of shit and I probably only see a more attractive woman walking around outside once a *year*. Bizzy and TG are two of the most beautiful women (to me, tastes vary) that I've seen EVER. Now apply that relative rarity to the men you see posting.

    Part of these communities play under the assumption that you can look good if you *just get it right*. Pick the right fit, find the right brands, choose the right size, tailor the right way. Fact of the matter is, odds are you already look pretty good. You are, after all, paying enough attention to actually spend time reading about appearance. Comparatively, though, no, you don't stack up vs the dirty dozen megarep'd posters, the genetic luckies, and new JEANS won't do it.



    tee hee
     
  7. tagutcow

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    Keep in mind, too, that SF and SuFu have thousands of readers, yet only two dozen waywt posters regularly post. These people are pretty special. They easily look good in a lot of what they wear. What are the odds you're gonna be one of these people? Not good. And it's not due to "taste". It's genetics.

    I know you flip through waywt here and think the guys look pretty normal, but take a sec and think about some of the women who post fits. Bizzy? tg###? CBD? CBD catches a ton of shit and I probably only see a more attractive woman walking around outside once a *year*. Bizzy and TG are two of the most beautiful women (to me, tastes vary) that I've seen EVER. Now apply that relative rarity to the men you see posting.


    Oh- pshaw - really, you shouldn't. [​IMG]
     
  8. whodini

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    Yeah, you hear that? I'm genetically awesome!
     
  9. davo10375

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    You probably on see a more attractive women the CBD walking outside once a year? Are you fuckin serious? Bizzy and TG whatever you may have some 6'3 short haired dominatrix fetish (unfair and I like both posters and find them attractive but whatever) but two of the most beautiful humans alive?
     
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    Yeah I was amazed by that, either you don't get out much or you are the most particular person in the world.
     
  11. benjamin831

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    I'm no authority when it comes to fit, but this just doesn't flatter you at all wmmk. [​IMG]
     
  12. db_ggmm

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    I get out a lot, haha. But I did put this in to cover myself, "(to me, tastes vary)". I actually see a lot of beautiful women, but when I examine it more closely, TG and Bizzy are on a different level. That is what I was trying to emphasize. These two aren't just accepted by SuFu, they are deified.

    And to be fair to wmmk, critiques of fits need to start with the photo - that isn't a great one. There are posters who take shots like that and it flatters them. That alone makes waywt inherently confusing.
     
  13. XenoX101

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    Do you major in philosophy/art by any chance?
     
  14. ConcernedParent

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    I'm no authority when it comes to fit, but this just doesn't flatter you at all wmmk.

    [​IMG]


    Nothing totally off. Oxford a little too big, jeans a little too tight, that's all.
     
  15. toothsomesound

    toothsomesound Senior member

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    Do you major in philosophy/art by any chance?
    I'm fairly sure he doesn't, but I do. [​IMG] [​IMG] Did you ever try tucking in that oxford? Would help with the discord there. The sleeves don't have to be real close fitting, but the silhouette ought to be slightly more consistent if you're going to try and have a less fitted top with a super fitted bottom. The tuck would help I think.
     
  16. Cas Ruffin

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    Nothing totally off. Oxford a little too big, jeans a little too tight, that's all.

    He pretty much said it all, but it doesn't look like you were going for "dressed to impress." Looks like you're just chillin'.
     
  17. benjamin831

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    Nothing totally off. Oxford a little too big, jeans a little too tight, that's all.
    Isn't that the point of this thread? Getting the correct fit? If wmmk wants to understand the philosophy behind a good fit, he has to start considering what cut of clothes look best on him. Given his type of body (very slim), a pair of fantastically tight jeans may only make him look even skinnier, which looks almost anorexic. On the other hand, a shirt that fits too large may enhance his skinniness, making him look as if he's swimming inside his shirt. Fit is all about balance. Whether it is formal or "chillin' out," the philosophy is the same. Being a skinny person myself, the most effective way to strike this balance is to create "artificial space" between your body and the clothing. I steer away from skinny jeans towards jeans that fit properly (think APC NS size 1 or even none). Skin tight jeans would only enhance my girly legs, whereas more normal jeans would create an illusion of a more well build lower bloct. The same goes for the upper body. You want a shirt that fits at the shoulders. You need to sleeves to be the right length and the shirt tail to be short enough so that it doesn't look like an apron when you untuck. At the same time however, you don't want the shirt to grab your chest, you want some space in between to to create a fuller build. Keeping the waist in and letting the chest out would help this look.
     
  18. sjnv

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    +1000, wmmk, you should try out some straighter fit denim. I really think it would suit you more
     
  19. wmmk

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    Thanks to everyone who responded with constructive criticism, my next pair of pants will be a straighter fit. Any suggestions for straight cuts that are very slim through the top block & hips? I think Imperial Dukes would fit the bill really well, but I wouldn't mind something cheaper and/or something without back pocket stitching.

    Also, for the workout gurus out there, can I keep buying the same size shirts as I am now (RL Rugby and J. Crew smalls and work out enough to make them more fitted, or would things look better if I started wearing mediums in those brands?
     
  20. toothsomesound

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    Dear god, do not wear mediums in mall brands dude. As it is those shirts are too big for you. Don't get confused.

    Also I have a pair of indigo dry Theory jeans that I bought off Ebay for seventy bucks, expecting them to be skinny. They're actually slim straight but they may be too straight for you, I'll put up a fit pic shortly if you're interested. They're 28's, should fit you fine.
     

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