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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by ImTheGroom, Mar 6, 2014.
Good point. Plus it is a low-quality hat.
I do get your point; that's actually why I tend toward the Homburg with a suit. It looks more deliberate, and less trend-following, since most people don't know the difference between a good fedora, and a cheap trilby.
I vastly prefer hats to umbrellas, to the point that I don't even own an umbrella. I will probably go hatless, if it isn't raining. Chances are, however, it will be raining.
Directly as possible: no upside to wearing vest or hat. Both are close to strange nowadays. Blue suit, white shirt, and red tie are a drippy combination. Like a hack politician. Grey suit, blue shirt, and a tie with a little pop.
Look, you asked for advice about your meeting, and we've been giving you sound advice but you're being argumentative all the way.
If you want to wear a brimmed hat and vest, fine, be my guest. Your customer might think you're trying to hard. If that's a risk you want to take, go ahead.
- White shirt is almost the right choice if meeting with someone who dressed CBD. You could go with a light blue shirt if you don't mind being a bit less CBD, but the shirt in question is too dark and should not be worn with a tie IMO.
- No vest. No hat. You are trying to look well put together, not be overly conspicuous.
- Burgundy tie of those choices. I'd prefer a grey or powder blue tie to burgundy, but I don't love most navy and yellow stripes, so burgundy wins.
Good luck with the meeting.
But what is he wears a Homburg instead of a Fedora?!?!?!! That will look okay since Homburgs are more deliberate, and less trend-following!!!!
He's not being argumentative, he is just sounding out his thoughts.
Why did you lose out on him last year?
How formal is the restaurant?
What else are you doing that day?
Sure, you are most comfortable in a suit and that is what you naturally wear to an important meeting. Yes, this is a very important meeting but you have to be aware of what your outfit conveys. That is what the forum is trying to tell you. If the guy is used to seeing you in athletic clothing it will be a bit strange to see you in a three piece suit. If it is a white table cloth restaurant don’t show up in sweats. If you are working in the office before or after the lunch wear something appropriate for both.
He is not trying to meet you as a peer. He is not going to bank with you. He just wants to be confident that you are the right guy to train his kids. NO HAT. NO VEST. NO TIE. If I was in your place I would probably wear a sport coat, no tie.
Mind you this is coming from someone who wears a three piece suit 95% of the time, wears a hat every day (yes, even a bowler), doesn’t own a pair of jeans or sweat pants, and even on occasion waxes his moustache. I definitely understand your conflict.
On the other hand, the more important question is why didn’t he hire you last year. It probably wasn’t on account of your clothes. Solve that issue and your clothes won’t matter. However, it’s probably best that they don’t get in the way either.
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