Fit Critique - What Alterations Do I Need?

[derrickrose1]

I bought this off the rack, and for some reason I thought it fit a lot better when I was in the store. Now I put it on and realize some work definitely needs to be done. It's a 38R. I'm thinking the jacket needs to be taken in a bit and the sleeves need to be brought up (I want it to show 1/2 inch of shirt cuff). Is it possible to make the sleeves/arms tighter as well? I have small wrists and it feels kind of loose. I thought the pants are fine but in the pictures even they look a little baggy. What do you guys suggest? Sorry for the poor quality and wrinkles.

 

[phxlawstudent]

At first I thought it looked way too long. Then I saw the last pic with your arm down.

I really don't see anything terribly wrong with it. In fact, I would say this is one of the best RTW fit pics I have seen in recent days on this forum.

That said, you should provide back shots, and have someone else take the picture because bending your arm throws off the fit picture.

 

[dbc]

Sleeves a tad too long, trousers way too long.

Apart from that, not bad.

 

[derrickrose1]

Originally Posted by phxlawstudent

At first I thought it looked way too long. Then I saw the last pic with your arm down. I really don't see anything terribly wrong with it. In fact, I would say this is one of the best RTW fit pics I have seen in recent days on this forum. That said, you should provide back shots, and have someone else take the picture because bending your arm throws off the fit picture.
I don't have friends. Well, at least not any that wouldn't completely trash me for posting pictures on the internet like this.

However, I'm well aware that message boards are an excellent resource for pretty much ANYTHING you want to try and do well, so here I am, trying to figure out how a suit should fit. Thanks for the reply, honestly I keep flip flopping on whether I think it fits right or not. My intuition is that there is no way its PERFECT off the rack. I feel like it isn't really grabbing me in the waist like I think it should when I button it. Just doesn't look like it fits the way some other posters' suits fit.

 

[mktitsworth]

Originally Posted by derrickrose1

I don't have friends. Well, at least not any that wouldn't completely trash me for posting pictures on the internet like this.

However, I'm well aware that message boards are an excellent resource for pretty much ANYTHING you want to try and do well, so here I am, trying to figure out how a suit should fit.

Thanks for the reply, honestly I keep flip flopping on whether I think it fits right or not. My intuition is that there is no way its PERFECT off the rack. I feel like it isn't really grabbing me in the waist like I think it should when I button it. Just doesn't look like it fits the way some other posters' suits fit.

As for friends, I found mine surprisingly accommodating. As for fit, that will apparently come with time, understanding, and finding a good alterations tailor.

 

[phxlawstudent]

Originally Posted by derrickrose1

My intuition is that there is no way its PERFECT off the rack. I feel like it isn't really grabbing me in the waist like I think it should when I button it. Just doesn't look like it fits the way some other posters' suits fit.

Well, its not perfect... But its not bad. Take it to a good tailor and it'll look even better.

 

[derrickrose1]

Originally Posted by phxlawstudent

Well, its not perfect... But its not bad. Take it to a good tailor and it'll look even better.

Do you think I should just get the sleeves shortened?

Here's another jacket I have (38s), and I feel like this one fits a bit better around the waist/chest. Would a 38s fit differently in those respects compared to a 38r (my understanding is that only difference is in sleeve length and maybe jacket length).

Anyway, do you think this one fits better?

 

[dieworkwear]

The first one is all around too big. The shoulders and chest are too big, and the sleeves are too long. In addition to that, the jacket itself also looks too long, well beyond what a tailor can fix. A tailor can chop off an inch from the bottom, but not really more than that since it will throw the proportions off. Your armholes are also too low. You may be able to kill two birds with one stone by bringing the armholes up, which will also end up shortening your jacket. All together, however, this will be such an expensive job, that I'm not sure it's worth it.

The gorge also sits too high for my taste, but it's a matter of preference. Could also be your camera angle.

As for the second one, it fits marginally better, but your shoulders and chest still look too big. The armholes again look too low, and this time, you also have a buttoning point that's too high.

Have you tried measuring your chest? Are you sure you're a 38R? Perhaps you're a 36 in real life? Might be worth double checking.

 

[phxlawstudent]

I would shorten the sleeves of both jackets. That is a high button stance, but it's personal preference.

 

[derrickrose1]

Originally Posted by dieworkwear

The first one is all around too big. The shoulders and chest are too big, and the sleeves are too long. In addition to that, the jacket itself also looks too long, well beyond what a tailor can fix. A tailor can chop off an inch from the bottom, but not really more than that since it will throw the proportions off. Your armholes are also too low. You may be able to kill two birds with one stone by bringing the armholes up, which will also end up shortening your jacket. All together, however, this will be such an expensive job, that I'm not sure it's worth it. The gorge also sits too high for my taste, but it's a matter of preference. Could also be your camera angle. As for the second one, it fits marginally better, but your shoulders and chest still look too big. The armholes again look too low, and this time, you also have a buttoning point that's too high. Have you tried measuring your chest? Are you sure you're a 38R? Perhaps you're a 36 in real life? Might be worth double checking.
Just measured chest. 38 inches almost exactly. However, "all around too big" is about what it feels like to me. Not by much, I don't think, but everything is just kind of a little too big, from chest (somehow), to waist, to arms, the sleeve length, to jacket length. For jacket length, is the second jacket too long, or the right length? Feels like the right length to me. You really think the first jacket is really so long that a tailor couldn't do anything about it? I think it is probably 1 1/2 inches too long. If a tailor can take off 1 inch, I think it would make a big difference. I know the sleeves probably need to come up a bit on that one too (although, TBH the sleeves on the shirt are probably maybe 1/2 inch too short). I agree about the armholes - I didn't even realize that. I think that is what is really making it look bigger. Any other thoughts? Can some basic alterations make this look a lot better, or is it going to be an overhaul?

 

[Navi]

I would start trying on more 37's and maybe fuller 36's... It's too big but honestly if you get it altered as much as possible it will look fine in the real world. Obviously people will lay into you here if the shoulders are a millimeter too big, since this is SF.

If the store has a good return policy I'd return it and get another size, if not it's wearable (in my opinion at least). Just get the waist taken in a bunch, sleeves hemmed, pants hemmed... I think just taking in the waist will improve the silhouette by a long shot. It will start looking more like a suit and less like a sack.

 

[Lord Asquith]

Originally Posted by derrickrose1

Just measured chest. 38 inches almost exactly. However, "all around too big" is about what it feels like to me. Not by much, I don't think, but everything is just kind of a little too big, from chest (somehow), to waist, to arms, the sleeve length, to jacket length.

For jacket length, is the second jacket too long, or the right length? Feels like the right length to me. You really think the first jacket is really so long that a tailor couldn't do anything about it? I think it is probably 1 1/2 inches too long. If a tailor can take off 1 inch, I think it would make a big difference. I know the sleeves probably need to come up a bit on that one too (although, TBH the sleeves on the shirt are probably maybe 1/2 inch too short).

I agree about the armholes - I didn't even realize that. I think that is what is really making it look bigger.

Any other thoughts? Can some basic alterations make this look a lot better, or is it going to be an overhaul?

You need a short. Trousers are also too long so have them hemmed higher.And when you get a suit that fits reasonably well just wear it for awhile before getting alterations and see how it conforms to your body first.

 

[jrd617]

Originally Posted by derrickrose1

Just measured chest. 38 inches almost exactly. However, "all around too big" is about what it feels like to me. Not by much, I don't think, but everything is just kind of a little too big, from chest (somehow), to waist, to arms, the sleeve length, to jacket length. For jacket length, is the second jacket too long, or the right length? Feels like the right length to me. You really think the first jacket is really so long that a tailor couldn't do anything about it? I think it is probably 1 1/2 inches too long. If a tailor can take off 1 inch, I think it would make a big difference. I know the sleeves probably need to come up a bit on that one too (although, TBH the sleeves on the shirt are probably maybe 1/2 inch too short). I agree about the armholes - I didn't even realize that. I think that is what is really making it look bigger. Any other thoughts? Can some basic alterations make this look a lot better, or is it going to be an overhaul?
D-Rose, what's the pit to pit measurement on the jacket? (Laid flat, with top button done). If it's over 40 inches, the jacket is too big. Judging by the pictures, I suspect it will be. Also, the shoulders seem too large. Do they extend past your shoulder bones?

 

[pvrhye]

First one looks better, but it's too big. You might even be a short size depending on where that designer intended the jacket to end. If you bought it from a store, try one size down. The second one is a bit stranger case. You could be that slanty-ass pose, but it looks like it's puckering hard at the button up top. Given the very high button stance, is it possible you have a 2-roll-1?

Next time you take a picture, see if you can do it with one arm hanging naturally.

 

[Imhoff]

First suit:

Looks a little big all-around. Not sure how it is, but the shoulders look too big and not bad... at the same time. Seems to hang off you and not on you. Pants are definitely too big/baggy. Would definitely help to have some side profile and back shots.

Second jacket:

It almost seems that the button stance is for a 3-button jacket, but it only has 2? Agree with some that the stance is a bit high, personal preference of course. Shorten the sleeves. Again, side/back shots help with fit pics.

Agree with others that have posted that the armholes come down to far. This is clearly in full effect when you lift your arms up.