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First Tux

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by RedLeg, Mar 8, 2013.

  1. BackInTheJox

    BackInTheJox Senior member

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    His post was clearly and blatantly sarcastic in its entirety.
     
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  2. RedLeg

    RedLeg Senior member

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    Not a fan of the shawl collar personally, no matter how many times James Bond wears one.

    Went to Century 21 today to get some socks. Took a look at what they had OTR. They had Canali, Zegna etc. for $1k, but I was surprised to see that they were all notch lapels. Thinking custom is the way to go since buying these at full retail would be about the same price.
     
  3. jeff13007

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    Actually midnight blue has always been a choice for tuxedos. It was a bit more obvious in skyfall but remember even in casino royal the tuxedo was midnight blue not black. In certain lights it looks blacker than black. Below are pics of a midnight blue suit. The first one looks black because of the lighting and the second is from the same night same suit and all but looks more "blue"

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  4. jt10000

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    Why?
     
  5. add911_11

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    I understand your point about the darkness of the midnight blue suit, but from the picture we can learn that a bright tie will never look good with such colour. Thanks for the contribution.


    It is because the tux will fit you far better in the nitty-gritty parts. You might not notice the superiority straight away, but you will in the future. Plus bespoke formal fabrics are usually much more durable and nicer than the ones used in RTW. I own 3 dinner jackets outfits, and only my playful outfit (TF mid blue paisley DJ in silk) is RTW, the others are all bespoke. People do notice and expect perfection in Black Tie/ White Tie events, well if you are in the right side of the street.
     
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  6. jeff13007

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    No problem. And from your post ill be sure to ask you next time about which ties go well with what color since you obviously have such a clear eye when it comes to these things.
     
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    I would definitely go custom rather than OTR. My preference would be midnight blue, double breasted, peak lapel no vent. A DB tux eliminates the need for a vest or cummerbund. In addition to looking great as a tux, it can play double duty as a more formal suit for other occasions with a long tie (instead of a bow tie). Just my preference.
     
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    I wouldn't do ventless. That's the one feature I'd deviate from the classic configuration.
     
  9. jeff13007

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    What about the silk/grosgain Lapels? i think that would rule it out for use as a suit? IMO double breasted is a bit of a stretch in these times especially if its going to be a first tux. Nothing wrong with them but i would assume he would be more comfortable with a SB
     
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  10. tim_horton

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    I love midnight blue for lounge suiting but I don't think it's a good idea to try and pass off a midnight blue tuxedo as anything other than what it is. With the black lapels, jetted pockets and finish on the trousers it will look out of Place outside of black tie events.
     
  11. VinnyMac

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    I didn't say that they were invented for Skyfall, haha. I said that they're very popular now because of Skyfall. I did say that they have a place, but I recommended black first. In the end, it's OP's decision.

    ...still just one man's opinion.
     
  12. add911_11

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    It is nothing the bad, as you may have change into the darker suit and not the rest for the cocktail event. But objectively a darker tie will be more coherent for midnight blue.

    it is very common and lots of people do it.
     
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  13. jeff13007

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    haha i know you didn't say they weren't invented for Skyfall. Im just saying they were a thing since before skyfall, i would recommended black first as well but my point was midnight navy is a suitable alternative if you wanted something a bit more interesting as it is "blacker than black" in certain lighting. I believe it went something like in the early 20th century black fabric showed greenish under candlelight while midnight blue showed as a rich black. I might be misquoting "candle light" for "artificial light" though.
     
  14. azumi

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    May I suggest this?


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    Mignight blue, notch lapel :p
     
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  15. add911_11

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    It looks pretty, but would have been better if the tux has a shawl lapel.
     
  16. azumi

    azumi Senior member

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    Since Tom Cruise is a short guy, do you guys think the peak lapel looks good on him?
     
  17. RedLeg

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    Certainly looks sharp. Think a first tux should be traditional black tie though, so I would err on the side of peak lapels.

    Isn't a notch lapel tux considered less formal?
     
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    Less formal, yes, but that isn't the problem with it. Shawl lapel is also less formal than peak, but certainly still nice. The problem with notch lapel is that it is one (big) step closer to a loung suit, which I find completely unappealing.
     
  19. add911_11

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    No it is not, black tie are even meant to be a formal event, you dress as your best for the night.
    There is no such thing as the correct lapel for black tie, it depends on the taste of the wearer.

    However, I do believe shawl lapel were design specifically for dinner jackets.
     
  20. Cuttingboard

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    The shawl lapel is the most formal, followed by peak and then notch lapel.
     
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