First tux

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  1. hopkins_student

    hopkins_student Senior member

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    Forgive me for the use of the word "tux", but I cannot recall what the official term we've come up with was; I think I was reprimanded for using the phrase "dinner suit". Anyway, I've been informed that I can expect several black tie events next year, and during each subsequent year of medical school, and some here and elsewhere have suggested I buy rather than rent. I welcome the opportunity to buy a tux, but I'm curious what you would do for your first. I have decided on a single button peaked lapel (if only I liked shawl collar there is an awesome Brioni on Ebay) and I'm probably going to go with Zegna. Would you purchase a black or midnight blue tux? I am sort of thinking black for the first one, and then if I choose to buy another tux in ten years I'll get a midnight blue one. Also, do I need to purchase the waistcoat at the same time and what are the rules for the fabric of the waistcoat? I'm going to go with the three button (do you still leave the lower button unbuttoned on this style?). Do you think I should also buy a cummerbund? If so, what are the rules for the fabric of the cummerbund. I'm obviously going to go with black/midnight blue vest/cummerbund instead of some horrid colorful pattern. Thanks for your help.
     


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    alchimiste Senior member

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    Tuxedo in the US, dinner jacket in Mantonland.
     


  3. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Black.  Blue is cool, but hardly standard, despite the fact that some old dead dude preferred midnight blue. The waistcoat should strictly be black as well, but can have a discreet pattern. As a young guy, I would eschew the cumberbund.

    Join the dark side, wear your tux with a formal four-in-hand, a belt (some more modern tuxes come this way), and help me give Manton a heart attack.
     


  4. Luc-Emmanuel

    Luc-Emmanuel Senior member

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    black.
    single or two button, peaked satin lapel. I wouldn't go with a cummerbund or a waistcoat.

    luc
     


  5. cuffthis

    cuffthis Senior member

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    There is a definite difference between blue and Midnight Blue, which is the color of choice. Midnight Blue appears almost black, but it not as shiney under artificial light. Don't knock it until you've worn it.
     


  6. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    It's very cool, but would you recommend it for a first (and for some years, only) DJ?
     


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    mano Senior member

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    If you are a size 40R, you may want to check out this Isaia tux: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws....37&rd=1 I'm not the seller, but happen to own the exact same tuxedo. Â The auction description indicates silk satin lapel, but mine has silk gros grain. Â The buttons on the auction tux show gros grain, so it's likely the lapels are the same. Â It is a gorgeous suit and my tailor loved altering it and fitting it with working buttonholes. Â The pattern is essentially imperceptible. Â I wore it last weekend and received two compliments.
     


  8. hopkins_student

    hopkins_student Senior member

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    Thanks for the link, but unfortunately I'm a US 46R, so a 56R/58R depending on the maker.
     


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    I agree.  Most people won't recognize that it's midnight blue.  It will just have a different sheen than all the other black tuxes.  My first and only respectable tux is midnight blue.

    dan
     


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    cuffthis Senior member

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    (cuffthis @ April 24 2005,13:17) There is a definite difference between blue and Midnight Blue, which is the color of choice. Midnight Blue appears almost black, but it not as shiney under artificial light. Don't knock it until you've worn it.
    It's very cool, but would you recommend it for a first (and for some years, only) DJ?
    If it was exquisitely cut and the person has the overall style and self-confidence to wear it well, then, yes, I would recommend for their first and only dinner jacket. Otherwise, probably not.
     


  11. zjpj83

    zjpj83 Senior member

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    For a whileI had a midnight blue and a black, and I ended up giving away the black because I never wore it.

    For what it's worth.
     


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    For those of you who suggest wearing neither a cummerbund nor a vest, what do you suggest? Am I the only one who who thinks a tux looks naked without one of the two items?

    NEVER wear a long tie with a tux... it screams hollywood award show/clueless.
     


  13. zjpj83

    zjpj83 Senior member

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    No, you are not alone... on either of those points.
     


  14. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    No, I agree. At least when it comes to an SB DJ.
     


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